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Hate Crime #6923663
07/08/20 08:06 AM
07/08/20 08:06 AM
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So let me get this straight. You can topple statues all over the country, and spray paint everything from war memorials, to statues, to public and private businesses, to streets and none of that is a hate crime, but this is?????




A White man and a White woman who allegedly painted over a California community's Black Lives Matter mural this weekend are each facing a hate crime charge, the Contra Costa County District Attorney's Office said Tuesday.

David Nelson and Nicole Anderson are each charged with three misdemeanor counts, including violation of civil rights, vandalism, and possession of tools to commit vandalism or graffiti, the district attorney's office said in a statement. The incident happened soon after the mural was painted in front of the courthouse in Martinez, California, on July 4.

"We must address the root and byproduct of systemic racism in our country. The Black Lives Matter movement is an important civil rights cause that deserves all of our attention," District Attorney Diana Becton said in a statement.

"The mural completed last weekend was a peaceful and powerful way to communicate the importance of Black lives in Contra Costa County and the country," she said. "We must continue to elevate discussions and actually listen to one another in an effort to heal our community and country."

When reached by phone by CNN, Nelson, 53, said "I have no comment — for you anyway." CNN's attempts to reach Anderson, 42, went unanswered Tuesday night.

A woman, wearing a red T-shirt and flip-flops, began painting over the yellow-lettered mural with black paint Saturday, as seen in a video posted on YouTube and shared in a police statement. A man wearing a red Trump shirt that read "Four more years" began filming as the woman started painting.

"We're sick of this narrative, that's what's wrong," the man said in the video. "The narrative of police brutality, the narrative of oppression, the narrative of racism, it's a lie."

A bystander off camera can be heard arguing with the man. She asked what was wrong with him before adding, "This is racist, what you're doing."

Residents of Martinez got a permit from the city to paint a Black Lives Matter mural on July 4, Martinez Police Chief Manjit Sappal said in a statement.

Police had been looking for the man and woman seen in the video.

"It appeared that the couple came to the mural with cans of paint and a roller with the specific purpose of vandalizing over the mural," Sappal said in the statement. "The community spent a considerable amount of time painting this mural only to have the suspects destroy it by dumping and rolling paint over part of the message."

During the incident, the woman stopped painting to voice her concern, suggesting such murals be kept in New York. "This is not happening in my town," she said.

The mural was repainted after the incident, according to KPIX. The area was blocked off and the mural was surrounded by chalk images as of Sunday afternoon, KPIX reported.

Nelson and Anderson will be sent notices to appear in court. That date has not yet been released, according to DA spokesman Scott Alonso. If convicted of the misdemeanor charges, each defendant could face up to a year in county jail, according to the news release.

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923669
07/08/20 08:10 AM
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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923679
07/08/20 08:18 AM
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Just more B.S. on how it is being handled. They should be charge with de-facing public property. JMO


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923680
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Just more B.S. on how it is being handled. They should be charge with de-facing public property. JMO


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923685
07/08/20 08:24 AM
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I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: Trap Setter] #6923726
07/08/20 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.


Although I don't like it personally, I agree with you 100.


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923761
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Something the article doesn't mention.... the mural is painted on a road. So technically anyone who drives on the road can be charged with a hate crime.

A couple years back the city here painted a crosswalk as a rainbow to the tune of $35k. A motorcyclist did a burnout on it and was charged with a hate crime.

If a crosswalk costs $35k to paint, how much did painting the entire road cost?

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: adam m] #6923766
07/08/20 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Something the article doesn't mention.... the mural is painted on a road. So technically anyone who drives on the road can be charged with a hate crime.

A couple years back the city here painted a crosswalk as a rainbow to the tune of $35k. A motorcyclist did a burnout on it and was charged with a hate crime.

If a crosswalk costs $35k to paint, how much did painting the entire road cost?


“BLM painted on the road”, seriously? ROTFLMBO!!!!

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923770
07/08/20 10:11 AM
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Let's look at the facts... these PAs, LEOs and Judges are afraid of the black community. Instead of standing up to these thugs, they jump in bed with them and protect them. I HATE COWARDS! These official need to voted out of office or just ran out of the counties they are in. People need to speak out against them in the public. Not just on trapping forums, where they are not going to be heard, but every need to express their opinions at public meetings... OR ARE ALL WHITE PEOPLE AFRAID OF THE THUGS?

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923781
07/08/20 10:20 AM
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It doesn't hurt that the DA is a black woman who during one of the protests refused to consider it a crime when a black protester assaulted a police officer hitting him with a tear gas canister. When they tried to arrest him for being out after curfew and assault, he resisted. The protester walked.


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: Trap Setter] #6923795
07/08/20 10:30 AM
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Oakland, MS
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.


My problem isn't that they were charged with vandalism. I guess the violating civil rights charge is the hate crime charge, and that's the one I have a problem with. And the main reason I object to it, is because I bet you can't show me one single instance of where a black person was charged with a hate crime for destroying statues of white men. But as soon as a white person destroys something created by blacks....BAM...hate crime.

A white college student ended up serving time in a federal prison several years ago for tying a rope around the neck of a statue of James Meredith (a black civil rights activist). How many ropes have we seen tied around the necks of statues of white soldiers, being used to pull them down, in the past 2 months? Are any of those people serving time in federal prison for a hate crime? These "protesters" even admit they're pulling down the statues out of hatred and still no hate crime charges are filed. Most of the people that have destroyed statues and memorials haven't even been charged at all!

Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923798
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There's a double standard, say it isn't so.

Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923800
07/08/20 10:46 AM
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Try and get a permit to paint " White lives matter "

Ain't happening .......true racism and total bs


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923810
07/08/20 10:54 AM
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Well the perps need to come up with a Love excuse.

"We were offended, because we love all people, and we find the slogan to be non-inclusive, divisive, and hateful and demeaning to all the other races whose lives matter."


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923812
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The way it is looked at is the blacks have a good reason to hate the whites because of slavery et al.So they are justified in what they do.
Whites hating blacks is just seen as perpetuating the historical injustice.So not at all justifiable.
That is why there is a different standard.
it is similar to the Gladue factors when an indigenous person is sentenced in a Canadian court.They will get a much lesser sentence than non -indigenous.

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923814
07/08/20 10:56 AM
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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923820
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Not one black person in the USA has ever been a slave


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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923822
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Its the intergenerational effect.Your a product of your upbringing and things are passed down.Good and bad.

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Re: Hate Crime [Re: yotetrapper30] #6923829
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Sounds like total bullcrap to me..


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I’ve got a black guy at work that’s a big time supporter of BLM.. he started running off at the mouth the other morning about his ancestors picked cotton etc,etc,... I asked if he had ever picked cotton?? He said nope.. I told him Ive got some growing in my front yard. And I offered him the chance to pick it, he just huffed up and walked off.. was it something I said?? Lol


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