Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
[Re: BillyTraps]
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Murder. He never even raised the gun, let alone point it at anyone.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
[Re: BillyTraps]
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Bang on my door in the middle of the night, and you will be met with a gun too.....
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
[Re: BillyTraps]
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^^^^^ I'll bet you wouldn't come charging out of the door blindly like that though. That was a dumb move on that guy's part at the very least. In a situation like that you can't expect the cops to wait until the guy starts shooting first can you?
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
[Re: BillyTraps]
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I suspect there may have been some alcohol involved which affected the guys better judgment. Tragic, but that's what happens sometimes.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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I dont get the shot guy at all. Why would you walk out a door like a big ol target if you thought you needed to have a gun in hand? Why not take some kind of position inside and call 911?
it looks like that door had a peephole in the knocker. If the people beating on the door are standing where you cant see them, again, why open the door?
I suspect he wanted to be a tough guy. Now he is shot.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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Looks like he was blinded by the flash light , and was directly following orders by putting the gun down on the floor . Looks like he was shot before he could complete the request
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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Why would you answer the door with a gun in hand when you already know it's the cops ?
That was a big mistake right there !
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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He may not have heard or been able to understand them say police is what I assumed.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
[Re: BillyTraps]
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That woman sure seemed to calm down in a hurry. whole thing is strange
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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He may not have heard or been able to understand them say police is what I assumed. My home was raided by the ATF when I was 12. Couldn't understand anything. Just incoherent yelling.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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^^^^^ I'll bet you wouldn't come charging out of the door blindly like that though. That was a dumb move on that guy's part at the very least. In a situation like that you can't expect the cops to wait until the guy starts shooting first can you? The best defense is an aggressive offense...... I wonder how many lowlife in this country has been frightened off by just this approach.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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Why would you answer the door with a gun in hand when you already know it's the cops ?
How do you know he knew it was the cops, from outside you can hear them say phoenix police but that’s within a foot of their microphone. There’s no telling if the tv or radio was up loud inside. The guy may have just heard the knock, it looked to me like he was awful surprised it was the cops and made a point to raise his one arm and keep his gun down so he didn’t get shot.
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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I suspect there may have been some alcohol involved which affected the guys better judgment. Tragic, but that's what happens sometimes. I thought that cops are not supposed to drink while on the job.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: Police Shooting----What is Your Opinion?
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Notice that there is a peephole in his door. He could have looked out and, seeing no one,.. ..he could have asked who it was, if he didn't hear.
Instead he comes out like a jerk ready to take a bite out of whoever was there. Either way , I believe he was shot trying to comply ......bad deal for all
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