This is the terrain I'm trapping in.

This is the terrain I'm trapping in.

I've never snare in terrain like that but if I had to I would definitely use a large 14-15" loop set with the bottom 14" above the ground. As the "Beav" stated the coyotes head will most likely to be up when it's travelling and furthermore with the large loop the snare sides will not appear to crowd the animals passage. Also a 1/16 cable more applicable in this situation.

Originally Posted by bctomcat
Originally Posted by coyote addict
Go to Beavs coyotes post you will be educated about the magnetic field !
I still think it's BS to excuse/cover up poor snaring practices.


I agree !

Over the years I caught a good many coyote in 8x8 bobcat loops. When setting for coyote I found 12 to 15" loops more productive.
My preferred cable for coyote is 1/16" 1x19. Korean 3/64" 1x19 is rated at 400# breaking strength, so where legal that could be used for non-springy-fastened coyote dispatch snares if desired.

I've cut cable off several leg-caught deer, but not in last few years because I started putting 280# S-hook BADS on all my snares. BADs are now required in my state.

Regarding visibility, imagine a coyote trotting down a trail. He would see all of a 10" loop as being directly in his line of travel. With a 15" loop he probably would see it but sides of loop would not crowd his path.

Originally Posted by LDW
10in loop, 10in off the ground


If you're not placing a loop this small and this low in hole through brush or grasses, it's too small and too low IMO for coyotes. It should be good for fox or bobcats if its a fast loaded snare. I much prefer a coyote loop be at least 12" up and often 14-15" up off the ground. IMO you want the bottom of the loop to hit them just under the chin, then fire shut fast when they get a little pressure applied to the cable. A stiff support is a must IMO to hold your loop solid until the lock can be pulled up slightly over the top of the loop, then hold it solid as the snare fires shut fast. This is like adding pan tension to a trap, you want them committed to pushing through before it fires shut.

There is so much info here based on where the guys who are using it that it has to be very confusing. For example beav has to use cable restraint type snares and specific setting instructions where as bctomcat can use real good dispatch snares without even a deer stop added to limit their effectiveness, however high or big he wants to. I fall in between, I can use real snares but they all have to have a stupid deer stop and maximum loop size of 11" wide, so if I use lighter cable, coyotes that the deer stop wouldn't allow me to kill, chew out. Other factors too such as what coyotes encounter in their daily travels effect your snaring methods. Plus simple things like camoing your snares, take for example the dakota line dip, I found it on the dry side when applied to snares and it slowed their action somewhat, they still work but maybe not as well for one guy as the next based on lock choice, cable choice, support wire, etc.. That said, my advice is to find a successful coyote snareman in your state and beg and plead to go ride with them one day on their line. It'll be worth it if you have to drive halfway across the state.



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It is doing a great disservice to mock and make fun of what has been learned and something that promotes the methods and practices that are posted, that you believe in, and are sharing. Ignorance is no excuse when information is so readily available and can be proved by just carrying a magnetometer one season. No telling what improvements to your line it might bring.

Here are just two examples which corroborate copyrighted statements on EMF, related to trapping devices, in these quotes.

I’m sorry for being confused but the two example Kirk de posted above say nothing about electromagnetic energy.

If there is a charge on the wire, I’ll assume since the critter’s feet provide grounding, that electro magnetic charge would dissipate as soon as the critter touched the wire. OR, when the grounded trapper touched the wire, the elec mag charge would be neutralized