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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/25/20 06:21 PM
08/25/20 06:21 PM
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SE MN
2cylinder
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Lenons coyote or fox #3 not too loud and always seem to stay and the set for a long time
Rebuilding john deere and international/farmall carburetors
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/26/20 12:43 AM
08/26/20 12:43 AM
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Northern Nevada
Bob
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Gland lures, with weisers horse meat. Early season they aren’t always hungry, lots of food around, so I like to give them a smell that triggers the territorial/curiosity response.
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Yes sir]
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08/26/20 09:34 AM
08/26/20 09:34 AM
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Pennsylvania
Tim64
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I'm no expert and maybe I'm missing something but I have been testing lures, baits, and ingredients year around for 2 yrs. What I've seen is that a great lure or bait will be great no matter what time of the year it is. Most coyote trappers that have written books on the subject will tell you that gland lures and call lures are better in late season. Gland lures are best in mating season which starts mid to late December in my part of the world and call lures are most effective in cold weather. That leaves curiosity lures and food lures that should be effective in early season before severe weather sets in. There are plenty of reasons for this thought process since warmer weather affords more fresh foods for predators, i.e. fruits, berries, rodents, and mice that are active and not holed up for the winter. Everyone knows the effectiveness of gland and call lures, but little attention is given to food and curiosity lures. Therefore, I was seeking advice and preferences for the early season.
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/26/20 10:06 AM
08/26/20 10:06 AM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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I'm no expert and maybe I'm missing something but I have been testing lures, baits, and ingredients year around for 2 yrs. What I've seen is that a great lure or bait will be great no matter what time of the year it is. Most coyote trappers that have written books on the subject will tell you that gland lures and call lures are better in late season. Gland lures are best in mating season which starts mid to late December in my part of the world and call lures are most effective in cold weather. That leaves curiosity lures and food lures that should be effective in early season before severe weather sets in. There are plenty of reasons for this thought process since warmer weather affords more fresh foods for predators, i.e. fruits, berries, rodents, and mice that are active and not holed up for the winter. Everyone knows the effectiveness of gland and call lures, but little attention is given to food and curiosity lures. Therefore, I was seeking advice and preferences for the early season. Yeah but coyotes never learned to write a book so if you really want to know you have to ask them through testing. The answers they provide aren't based off theory. You start testing you will be able to separate fact from theory, that is if it makes a difference to you. Some things in print I agree with from what I see testing somethings I don't. Ive read from some "experts" that catch coyotes by the hundreds that a coyote gland lure spooks more coyotes than catchs and some writes claim its great stuff. The question for you since both are in print how do you know which to believe. Myself, ill just ask the target animal, after their opinion is the only one that matters right? A lot of conflicting theories out there even among guys that catch lots of coyotes.
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/26/20 10:22 AM
08/26/20 10:22 AM
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Pennsylvania
Tim64
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[/quote]Yeah but coyotes never learned to write a book so if you really want to know you have to ask them through testing. The answers they provide aren't based off theory. You start testing you will be able to separate fact from theory, that is if it makes a difference to you. Some things in print I agree with from what I see testing somethings I don't. Ive read from some "experts" that catch coyotes by the hundreds that a coyote gland lure spooks more coyotes than catchs and some writes claim its great stuff. The question for you since both are in print how do you know which to believe. Myself, ill just ask the target animal, after their opinion is the only one that matters right? A lot of conflicting theories out there even among guys that catch lots of coyotes. So does that mean you have no preference for early season? It is just a question, not an argument.
Last edited by Tim64; 08/26/20 10:24 AM.
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/26/20 10:27 AM
08/26/20 10:27 AM
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West Central MN
20scout
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[/quote]Yeah but coyotes never learned to write a book so if you really want to know you have to ask them through testing. The answers they provide aren't based off theory. You start testing you will be able to separate fact from theory, that is if it makes a difference to you. Some things in print I agree with from what I see testing somethings I don't. Ive read from some "experts" that catch coyotes by the hundreds that a coyote gland lure spooks more coyotes than catches and some writes claim its great stuff. The question for you since both are in print how do you know which to believe. Myself, ill just ask the target animal, after their opinion is the only one that matters right? A lot of conflicting theories out there even among guys that catch lots of coyotes. [/quote] I have to agree with with you on this as it seems the coyotes around here apparently haven't read the same books or watched the same videos as I have. I think much has to do on the coyotes way of thinking is on that particular day. Sort of going to a good steak buffet and deciding on a salad. I take most information with a gain of salt unless it's the target animal showing me otherwise. Western coyotes may handle a situation much differently than an eastern or even it's mate for that matter. True, some coyotes are very predictable but I feel there are way too many variables to say for curtain.
Last edited by 20scout; 08/26/20 10:29 AM.
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Re: Coyote trapping question
[Re: Tim64]
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08/26/20 12:17 PM
08/26/20 12:17 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Thanks for the comments and theories. It is truly a continual learning process with coyotes. Your comments help with that process. I agree trying to understand them, if only a little bit, is the fun for me
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