I agree Mark. So why lie about it ? That is what raises questions for me

Just a statement Elon musk does have interest in Moderna and he just made announcement about putting chips into brains, they have done it with a pig

Is there politics involved ? sure . But I don't know whether " covid is not the boogey man the media is telling us it is. " I'm not a virologist and neither is anyone on the forum as far as I know.

The decision on the efficacy of any drug isn't up to me. The FDA has already said they won't approve a drug with less than 50 % efficacy.

I can't follow whatever it is you are trying to say about Gates. Are you saying he is giving away hundreds of millions of dollars because he is old ????

What about the millions he gave away years ago when he was young ?

He certainly isn't making any money off of this. I don't know who else you are talking about so I can't address that.

This would never pertain to me because I don't plan to get any vaccine if it ever becomes available.

Discernment comes in mighty handy about now....Truth is we aren't as smart as those that are running the world show, but what people say and do give their desires away.

The ones running the world show are very much in the shadow of a supreme and all knowing God.

People, even the smartest people in fact, really aren't that smart in comparison.

Just started looking at this .Not saying I am buying it but someone said see mentioned Elon Musk and it had nothing to do with the vaccine but in her story it does.She names two people Musk and Kuruzwiel from google because they are Transhumanist. Which she implies are behind all of this.Says there are others look them up. Also this process has been fast tracked . Something that takes years has been given the red light all the way . Compared to other test for other drugs. Far as I got have to go to work.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/elon-musk-unveils-brain-chip-220443105.html

I guess Elon Mush really doesn't get involved with advanced medical gadgets.

Is philanthropy somehow suspect if the funding is used for research ?

You do know that the Gates Foundations funds many different research projects into disease and public health world wide ?

That foundation of course is funded by Bill Gates.

He has also committed to giving his entire fortune to charitable organizations . Is that somehow suspect ?

As far as Gates involvement with SARS or MERS, you might want to read this

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...illion-effort-takes-aim-mers-lassa-nipah

What do you mean when you say "another company" ??

Bill Gates doesn't have a company with drugs in clinical trials............. if that is what you are saying.

And if she wanted to raise serious questions, why does she need to lie about it. If her concerns are valid....and some might be...........then present them truthfully

I know what side ive seen lie the most about this pandemic

You will know them by their fruits...Say hello to "Grimes" the mother of Elon Musk's child....The most hideous pic is of her digital alter ego "War Nymph"

Pretty easy to see these are not Mayberry type people...They are dark and disturbed.

Why is your doctrine someone's lie white17?
Perhaps that is her perspective. You have one. She has one. I have one. Everyone has one. So be it.

I know one thing for ceratin; There hasn't been open discussion on Covid-19 since it arrived around the world. It's cloaked in generalization and quackery (masks/6 ft rule) according to any valid virology protocol. I'm not a conspiracy guy. I'm of the opinion that people's opinions ought to be allowed to be heard.
But = Some are being allowed to speak openly and OFTEN (every day) while others, like this physician, and MANY others, with an unorthodox position according to ?? are not only being mocked, but are being told to stand aside. Fact: Doctors and medical personnel are in an industry (I was part of it for 3 decades, from corporate on down) that argues each and every day... about darn near everything. It's called debate, or opinion, or medical procedure. That's what has historically shaped the art of medicine since Hypocrites. Now, some views are stifled or poofed from public media quickly and that is a flag on the football field coach. No doubt about it.

I can't verify the truth of the doctor in this video, but more than anything, I bet she's rankled (along with her colleagues) about having very little ability to speak her peace.
If she's wrong, so be it. Let her speak. If she's correct on some or all, let her speak.

But don't assume your doctrine is everyone's doctrine of truth sir.
Debate is richer that way.

Blessings,
Mark

Well just some random thoughts here. The mRNA that Moderna is working with is not synthetic. It is the real thing, taken from the virus itself, with a short section of code snipped out. If it was an all new creation then I could see where that would indeed need monitoring on both a medical and ethical basis.

Absolutely agree that insurance companies are concerned with predicting people's health. ......or their driving habits etc.

And yes Gates COULD have a financial interest in a technology like that . Do you have any evidence that he does ? Do you have evidence that he has an interest in any insurance company ? Is there even a company that is working on technology like that t involved with a vaccine ?

Yes I know she isn't creating micro needles. I didn't mean to imply that....if I did. She is outright lying about how moderna's vaccine is delivered. She says it is delivered via a band-aid. using micro needles. It is not. It is injected with a standard syringe into the patient's shoulder.

Yes.......as I said there is research being done to create micro-needles. To date that research has not been successful

Well, Raphael Dubois coined the names Luciferase and Luciferin. Now since Raphael is a Angel of medicine and healing in the bible then that must mean Raphael Dubois is an angel and since he named Lucferase which slightly implies Lucifer a fallen angel then since Raphael got to base first all points should go to him. I declare Raphael the winner.

Relative works in somethings like puzzles and detective work and even markets but the facts have to float out at the top like cream on milk and/or dross on silver.

At 5:41 in the video she says ........" let me explain how they would administer the vaccine"

Her words. Not my interpretation

Well believe what you like. We all will I'm sure.

Mark asked what we all thought of the video.

Pretty clear what my opinion is.

Here's other viewpoints to consider.

https://www.bbc.com/news/53525002

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...-media/story-d0b1SmhDUAzG3Ryq3zUJCN.html

After I thought about this a while longer it occurred to me that the doc in the video may be confusing a couple of things. It is true that MIT has developed a microneedle delivery platform that has been used in pigs. BUT....it is oral. It is actually a pill loaded with tiny needles that become exposed in the intestine. Sounds awful but probably isn't

There is also a microneedle platform that Pittsburgh University has developed that actually does stick onto your skin. The "needles" are made of sugar and the drug they are trying to deliver. They dissolve when inserted between the layers of skin. So far only tested of rats. Sounds a lot like a PET scan when trying to isolate a cancer in the body.

Maybe she was confusing the two technologies ??

May your tribe increase bowhunter27295

I don't think anything that small has been developed. Some cells have no nucleus. Red blood cells for example.

I also doubt "we will find out shortly"

Maybe. But I suspect we will see 40 dollar coon before we see a CV19 vaccine delivered by microneedle patches. I hope I am wrong