Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: btomlin]
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08/31/20 11:15 AM
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KeeperOfTheCoons
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It could be. I could see a bait or lure being too "exotic". Vanilla extract is a great deer attractant, but older deer and bucks are know to be spooked by it since it's not something natural to them. Domestic animal meat like beef doesn't always get good results fast, but for me cheap chicken still works good for fur bearers. Why? Perhaps the predators have attacked people's chickens before and are familiar with the meat. It makes sense to me, I mean when does an animal kill a cow? A fox or coyote or any predator coon, fisher whatever is probably more likely to come across a chicken so maybe that's the reason for that preference. I could see why the coyotes in your area wouldn't like beaver as a meat if it wasn't common. They want to stick with whats normal for them, I suppose. Deer, porcupine, groundhog, bobcat, and canned mackerel are all meats that people in my area have caught coyotes on, deer and groundhog seems to be the most popular though, I see it working well because of how often a coyote comes across those 2 animals, so they probably like them and wouldn't' want to pass up the chance to eat one.
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: btomlin]
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08/31/20 01:03 PM
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I have had best results with horse meat baits and so far I have not seen a single horse in the wild. I am not trapping farms or dead pits either. Bobcat meat is my least successful. If I were to rate in my area from testing and trapping condition it would go: Horse Deer Muskrat Beaver Nice That is for coyote. Bobcat seem to go for the Beaver more often.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: btomlin]
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08/31/20 01:07 PM
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Everything likes beaver in my experience. Even if its not common in your area its smell forms a pleasant curiosity lure IMO.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: Yes sir]
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08/31/20 01:25 PM
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Paul Dobbins
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I would think the cold the region you are in and the hungrier the coyotes are the less particular they are Population density is also a consideration. The higher the density population of the animal, the more competition there is for food.
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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08/31/20 01:36 PM
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Yes sir
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I would think the cold the region you are in and the hungrier the coyotes are the less particular they are Population density is also a consideration. The higher the density population of the animal, the more competition there is for food. I'm with you on that Paul, the the other side of the coin is large populations also usually means abundant food supply to support predator populations. We have good coyote population here and judging by the fat on our coyotes most dont miss too many meals. Because we have lots of coyotes a less attractive formulation can look better that it is so i try to do a lot of side by side testing to determine a preference among our population. Also you can get a feel after enough testing about how intense and the #s of responses what is maybe ok and what might be a winner.
Last edited by Yes sir; 08/31/20 01:39 PM.
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: bctomcat]
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08/31/20 02:37 PM
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Everything likes beaver in my experience. Even if its not common in your area its smell forms a pleasant curiosity lure IMO. and in my nationwide customers experience. and ESPECIALLY, if you chose to use a commercial, tried and true, bait solution. I think the solution is more important than the base. solutions like Jamesons or Blackies or Weisers or Dobbins or Locklears or Northlands or Marsyadas, etc, etc.
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: Wanna Be]
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08/31/20 06:56 PM
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Yes sir
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Everything likes beaver in my experience. Even if its not common in your area its smell forms a pleasant curiosity lure IMO. and in my nationwide customers experience. and ESPECIALLY, if you chose to use a commercial, tried and true, bait solution. I think the solution is more important than the base. solutions like Jamesons or Blackies or Weisers or Dobbins or Locklears or Northlands or Marsyadas, etc, etc. I agree that a good bait solution could catch coyotes on a cotton ball. But why wouldn't you want to use the most attractive base that you can. If your base doesn't provide an attraction or very little why not just use the bait solution like a lure(which it is) by its self.Did you test and compare bases to determine what was most attractive to use in your commercial baits? Or was it based on an availability thing? I do wonder if coyotes preferences are that regional? I like horse a lot and even here in ranch country I doubt very many coyotes eat much if any horse. I don’t have the numbers most on here have, but I don’t see why beaver wouldn’t work. I’ve caught them on commercial horse and bobcat baits. I’ve caught them on quail, dove, and duck remains. I’ve caught them on fresh and slightly tainted bobcat meat. I guess the real test would be to have multiple sets at each location with different baits and see what produces. Right now it’s just set on sign and alter baits. Seems whatever I use will catch coyotes, just don’t have a lot of coyotes to catch, but the next road kill beaver I see will be picked up and used. I agree lots of stuff "works" to catch some coyotes but there's some stuff that works a lot better than others. After all a corn cob works but we all use toilet paper for a reason. Lol
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Re: Bait meat - geography specific??
[Re: btomlin]
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09/01/20 05:10 AM
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Archeryguy
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I've never had success with beaver for coyotes. Beaver carcass's that I throw out are usually never fed on either until after long periods of deep snow and cold...other wise they are ignored. Another bait I seen refusals on is store bought chicken. What works as my primary baits are deer liver, deer lungs and deer meat scraps. All natural foods for local coyotes, especially after gun season when they have been actively feeding on gut piles and unrecovered deer.
Last edited by Archeryguy; 09/01/20 05:12 AM.
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