Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/11/20 10:14 PM
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I agree that Comstock traps are excellent. I rely on them everyday.
The multipurpose trap would be a great first cage trap. The nosecone system is fantastic. The setter is handy too. Since new to cage trapping, you may consider the animal control device to keep an animal away from the door if transferring an animal to a transfer cage. Once you get rolling in the ADC business you may learn that Comstock traps are even better than you first realized. The new style pop off triggers are great. I am retrofitting some older traps with the new style pop off trigger bar system.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: Willy Firewood]
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09/12/20 02:42 AM
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...you may consider the animal control device to keep an animal away from the door if transferring an animal to a transfer cage. This is a good idea. Especially if you have skunks in the area. When you get to your "Raccoon Trap" and find a skunk it in, you'll be glad you have a way to get the door open and your transfer cage (or your tube trap) in place without worry of the skunk getting away. And if you have skunks in your area, I'd also recommend making a plan on how to deal with it. I had that experience this summer. First one took me two hours to get into the transfer tube. Second one, a half hour. If there ever is a next one, will be much quicker than that. As far as cage traps, I have a Bridger that has a door that swings down. Some raccoons will crawl on top of the trap and the door drops down locking the raccoon out of the trap. I'm not an ADC guy so can put up with that, but if I was working a job, that would have been a missed opportunity. Lots of people have recommended Comstock traps here. You definitely want to get something of good quality--lots of videos out there showing raccoons forcing their way out of a cheap trap.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/12/20 08:12 AM
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I enjoyed talking with you Jim, and I am looking forward to trying out the trap. Also thanks to everyone above with the advice.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/12/20 11:34 PM
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As cautioned by Urbancoon, raccoons can set off some cage traps from the outside. I use many of the falling door style trap for raccoons, especially baited cages in barns and buildings and set for tearing up lawns. I modify the traps to make them more reliable and to prevent problems and to increase catches. They are very effective for me. However they are not the quality or expense of Comstock traps. I use them because I have them and they work very well for me in certain situations.
I think you will find that the trigger system on the Comstock traps prevents that from happening. After setting a Comstock cage trap, I can turn it over, upside down, and even give it a shake. However the trigger remains solid yet sensitive enough that a chipmunk can fire the trigger. The trigger is dependent upon an animal moving a trigger wire. In fact sometimes it is advantageous to set a Comstock trap on its side and it works fine.
The sheet metal nosecone that Jim describes does work extremely well to funnel animals into the trap and to prevent them from taking a side exit around a trap. And they are excellent to keep an animal calm when carrying it past a customer or others. And the skunk protection is great too.
Remember to consider staking down cage traps. That can be important for many reasons. And consider carrying various supplies with you to stabilize cages to prevent rolling on hills. Like any trap a cage trap should be bedded so that it does not wiggle.
Hopefully you will find cage traps to be versatile and effective.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/15/20 06:11 AM
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Hi Kurt - That is excellent advice about covering a trap in advance. But, what do you use for covers? This winter I will be experimenting partially covering some 12x12x36 cage traps using aluminum coil stock. I recently ordered a 100’ roll.
Jim (Comstock) also makes nosecones that have a welded rod frame with cage material attached and the sides are flaps that open so you can slip it onto the end of your 9x11x24 and have very close to a flush end trap. It is a different type but equally useful nosecone.
I use my Comstock flush end traps less than the others. However, there are times when only the flush mount works. That happens mostly when I need to fasten the trap to a wall or ceiling to cover a raccoon used by a raccoon. I use hex head screws with fender washers and go right through the cage. I do something very similar when using squirrel traps for squirrels (obviously) or to catch or preferably exclude birds.
Many times when trapping groundhogs late in the year - because the customer called me late, I catch more raccoons and opossums than groundhogs going into the den. I have caught many large raccoons in my favorite Comstock trap for groundhogs - the 9x11x18. They are really crammed in and sort of unfold when I release them. Fortunately the cage mesh is small enough that the raccoons cannot pull out the grass.
I use the 9x11x18 cage trap most of all. And thanks to Jim for his hearty recommendation about that trap and others.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: Jim Comstock]
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09/15/20 07:52 PM
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It has been quite a challenging year trying to keep up with orders with covid and fewer employees to make more traps than usual in what has been a busy year. Orders have been shipping slowly, but many orders were shipped today, a good sign and hopefully picking up speed and catching up. Received my first comstock, wow! Heck of a trap! Worth the two month wait. I definitely will order more in the future. It's a beast!
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/16/20 10:44 PM
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Hi my friend,
It is great to find a product that is better than expected! Get that trap out there working for you. My wife refers to cage traps as wonderful employees. They are always on time, reliable, and never make a peep.
I keep 2 screwdrivers handy to prop open doors to tighten or replace the trigger wires. Whenever work slows I will be upgrading the trigger bars on a bunch of these traps. On the traps that came with the new system, the pop off trigger wires seem to allow more space for the animals, receive less damage, and are easier to pop back in place.
I finally opened that heavy box from you - thank you. One vise is mounted on a 2” hitch bar and is in the tool box in the back of the Super Duty. The other will be going on a deluxe hunting and fishing gear work bench that I am building for when we move.
best wishes.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/17/20 07:44 AM
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I ended going with the 36" flush mount and then I got the 3 way nose cone splitter to go with it so that I could make it like the multi purpose trap that some of you recommended. I ended up going this route for all the different uses. One question I have now is what is the best way to attach the nose cone so that I can remove it when I don't need it. I have not seen the trap yet so it may be obvious when I do, but if there are any pointers I appreciate it.
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Re: Cage trap opinion
[Re: JonathonJEB]
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09/17/20 09:58 PM
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Zip ties sometimes. I prefer short pieces of electric fence wire. Fast and easy. No tool necessary to remove. Pull the nosecone close and with a quick twist of wire it is consolidated for easier carrying up and down steep driveways and hills.
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