Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/17/20 08:48 PM
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danny clifton
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a guy that can shoot can keep a freezer full no problem with a 100 dollar scope. a guy that cant shoot will starve to death with a 1000 dollar scope if he cant get to a grocery store
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/17/20 08:49 PM
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Guess a lot depends on whether people have access to a range or land to shoot on. I’ve got a friend that calls every year and asks if he needs to check my rifles for me if I decide to put down the bow, lol. I’ll load them up in cases with corresponding bullets for each and leave them at the house for him. My joke with him is always, “Did you not get it sighted in last year?” Every year he’ll name the same rifle and tell me I need to sell it...to him, lol. I do shoot them all before season just to make sure. Going to throw him for a loop this year and intentionally loosen and retighten a scope. Can’t wait to hear him ask who dropped the rifle cause he had it dead on at 200yds last year!
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Pike River]
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09/17/20 09:06 PM
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I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next. foam ear pugs and muffs double up it can make a difference for many people. maybe I should say read the package on the foam ear plugs every year I have people who have no idea how to put them in right to actually get protection from them. It has become the last part of my safety briefing so that they don't have them in during the safety briefing.
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
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09/17/20 09:11 PM
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I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next. foam ear pugs and muffs double up it can make a difference for many people. maybe I should say read the package on the foam ear plugs every year I have people who have no idea how to put them in right to actually get protection from them. It has become the last part of my safety briefing so that they don't have them in during the safety briefing. LOL I have plenty of experience sticking twisties in my ears. Muffs are probably the way to go for me.
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
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09/17/20 09:43 PM
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It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift. And they stare at you when you say parallax. And don’t ask what their first zero is or what their point blank range is, they don’t know...
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
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09/17/20 10:34 PM
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It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift. Had one guy I used to work with who fancied him self in expert on guns and hunting. One of them guys who pronounces Leopold LEO-POLE (seems like everyone around here who does that is a massive butthole) and will argue you till he's blue in the that the 270 is the best deer round ever. Anyhow was talking to him about how I was stretching my 30-06 out to 400yd he procced ask me what bullet I was using the second I said 155gr and he called me a liar and said that was impossible because the bullet was too heavy. I told him that made no sense. He said that you basically have to have the rifle sitting at an angle to shoot like that because the bullet it's gonna drop because its too heavy. Said in less it's 55gr and under you can't make a shot like that I was speechless to say the least
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/17/20 11:29 PM
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It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift. Had one guy I used to work with who fancied him self in expert on guns and hunting. One of them guys who pronounces Leopold LEO-POLE (seems like everyone around here who does that is a massive butthole) and will argue you till he's blue in the that the 270 is the best deer round ever. Anyhow was talking to him about how I was stretching my 30-06 out to 400yd he procced ask me what bullet I was using the second I said 155gr and he called me a liar and said that was impossible because the bullet was too heavy. I told him that made no sense. He said that you basically have to have the rifle sitting at an angle to shoot like that because the bullet it's gonna drop because its too heavy. Said in less it's 55gr and under you can't make a shot like that I was speechless to say the least oh yeah you find the people who may understand 0-200 decent enough , then you try to explain to someone that the 150 is a lighter bullet for 30-06 and that the 180 carries more energy farther. the 150 shoots flatter from 0-250 but at 300 to and beyond it is the other way. yup it is gonna drop , but I am going to shoot 6 minutes high at 400
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/18/20 04:37 AM
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Wolfdog sounds like your friends are lazy and just using you to clean and sight in their guns. One time I'd do it the next time I'd tell them your welcome to use my range. If they are real good friends buy them a gun cleaning kit for Christmas
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
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09/18/20 05:11 AM
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I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next. Suppressors can make a 30/06 sound like a 22mag and reduce recoil 30%. Its an irritating and a long wait but fairly easy process.
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/18/20 05:17 AM
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Suppressors can make a 30/06 sound like a 22mag and reduce recoil 30%. Its an irritating and a long wait but fairly easy process. I am waiting on big R to keep their promise. I will do without till then. It is a definite infringement to be forced to pay a tax and get permission.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/18/20 05:31 AM
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P.S. a 270 IS a fine deer rifle. Or elk rifle or bear rifle. You have to sew a coyote if you shoot one with it but they are dead too.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: People not knowing how to zero
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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09/18/20 05:35 AM
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P.S.S.
Deer are dead if you shoot their heart with a 22 long rifle, 357, 22 hornet, 223, 22-250, 243, and a 30-30 too. A 49 caliber patched round ball works too. I can't comment on other calibers as these are the only ones I have tried.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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