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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993198
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I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next.

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Itís way too common and the real shame is all the wounded game.


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993209
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When it comes to cheap scopes i tell them a good rule of thumb is whatever you pay for your gun you should pay close to that if not more for your scope.

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993213
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a guy that can shoot can keep a freezer full no problem with a 100 dollar scope. a guy that cant shoot will starve to death with a 1000 dollar scope if he cant get to a grocery store


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993215
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Guess a lot depends on whether people have access to a range or land to shoot on. Iíve got a friend that calls every year and asks if he needs to check my rifles for me if I decide to put down the bow, lol. Iíll load them up in cases with corresponding bullets for each and leave them at the house for him. My joke with him is always, ďDid you not get it sighted in last year?Ē Every year heíll name the same rifle and tell me I need to sell it...to him, lol.
I do shoot them all before season just to make sure.
Going to throw him for a loop this year and intentionally loosen and retighten a scope. Canít wait to hear him ask who dropped the rifle cause he had it dead on at 200yds last year!

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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Pike River] #6993234
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Originally Posted by Pike River
I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next.


foam ear pugs and muffs double up it can make a difference for many people.

maybe I should say read the package on the foam ear plugs every year I have people who have no idea how to put them in right to actually get protection from them. It has become the last part of my safety briefing so that they don't have them in during the safety briefing.

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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6993237
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Pike River
I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next.


foam ear pugs and muffs double up it can make a difference for many people.

maybe I should say read the package on the foam ear plugs every year I have people who have no idea how to put them in right to actually get protection from them. It has become the last part of my safety briefing so that they don't have them in during the safety briefing.

LOL I have plenty of experience sticking twisties in my ears. Muffs are probably the way to go for me.

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993270
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It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift.

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: K91773] #6993280
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Originally Posted by K91773
It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift.


And they stare at you when you say parallax.

And donít ask what their first zero is or what their point blank range is, they donít know...


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993316
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Itís really entertaining for all the prior service types that spent 100ís of hours on the range back in the day and hours cleaning weapons (only to be sent back by the armorer come turn in time for ďa little more workĒ). Nowadays when I go to the range I end up watching in bewilderment at some of the things I see. My son several years ago worked the gun counter at Bass Pro and had plenty of stories of people buying a new rifle a week before deer season, asking what kind of ďbulletsĒ to buy and then ďwhatís a zero??Ē.


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: K91773] #6993374
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Originally Posted by K91773
It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift.

Had one guy I used to work with who fancied him self in expert on guns and hunting. One of them guys who pronounces Leopold LEO-POLE (seems like everyone around here who does that is a massive butthole) and will argue you till he's blue in the that the 270 is the best deer round ever. Anyhow was talking to him about how I was stretching my 30-06 out to 400yd he procced ask me what bullet I was using the second I said 155gr and he called me a liar and said that was impossible because the bullet was too heavy. I told him that made no sense. He said that you basically have to have the rifle sitting at an angle to shoot like that because the bullet it's gonna drop because its too heavy. Said in less it's 55gr and under you can't make a shot like that I was speechless to say the least


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993389
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Itís one thing for someone to not know what there doing, itís another thing not to try and educate yourself. There is an infinite amount of information available on youtube and the internet to educate yourself on just about anything. Heck, even reading the instructions can set you straight! Some folks will never put forth effort into something as long as someone is willing to do it for them. Thatís all i have to say about that!!!

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993411
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by K91773
It is incredibly common and don't even start to try to explain external ballistics to people. Most have not concept of trajectory and wind drift.

Had one guy I used to work with who fancied him self in expert on guns and hunting. One of them guys who pronounces Leopold LEO-POLE (seems like everyone around here who does that is a massive butthole) and will argue you till he's blue in the that the 270 is the best deer round ever. Anyhow was talking to him about how I was stretching my 30-06 out to 400yd he procced ask me what bullet I was using the second I said 155gr and he called me a liar and said that was impossible because the bullet was too heavy. I told him that made no sense. He said that you basically have to have the rifle sitting at an angle to shoot like that because the bullet it's gonna drop because its too heavy. Said in less it's 55gr and under you can't make a shot like that I was speechless to say the least



oh yeah you find the people who may understand 0-200 decent enough , then you try to explain to someone that the 150 is a lighter bullet for 30-06 and that the 180 carries more energy farther.
the 150 shoots flatter from 0-250 but at 300 to and beyond it is the other way.

yup it is gonna drop , but I am going to shoot 6 minutes high at 400


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993432
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There was a few today at the range.
I felt like I forgot how when I needed help with a spotter and calculating 1/4" moa with being off feet high and to the right. The 270 wasn't off too bad, the 300 win was better and took fewer rounds, but the 308 was way off. Ran out of time before the range closed.

After a box and half of 300 win my shoulder was feeling it lol. No way my daughter will be able to handle it. But you never know.

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993435
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How much do you charge? I enjoy shooting but not the gunsles at the range

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993460
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Wolfdog sounds like your friends are lazy and just using you to clean and sight in their guns. One time I'd do it the next time I'd tell them your welcome to use my range. If they are real good friends buy them a gun cleaning kit for Christmas

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Pike River] #6993464
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Originally Posted by Pike River
I'm probably in the middle. I know how but don't like to (see the open sight thread) I don't mind the kick but for some reason the last decade I've become noise adverse. If I wasn't so cheap I would probably pay someone to sight it in but then each person is different and one man's sight in might not be the same as the next.


Suppressors can make a 30/06 sound like a 22mag and reduce recoil 30%. Its an irritating and a long wait but fairly easy process.

Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993465
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Suppressors can make a 30/06 sound like a 22mag and reduce recoil 30%. Its an irritating and a long wait but fairly easy process.


I am waiting on big R to keep their promise. I will do without till then. It is a definite infringement to be forced to pay a tax and get permission.


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Re: People not knowing how to zero [Re: Wolfdog91] #6993468
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P.S. a 270 IS a fine deer rifle. Or elk rifle or bear rifle. You have to sew a coyote if you shoot one with it but they are dead too.


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Deer are dead if you shoot their heart with a 22 long rifle, 357, 22 hornet, 223, 22-250, 243, and a 30-30 too. A 49 caliber patched round ball works too. I can't comment on other calibers as these are the only ones I have tried.


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