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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6739539
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You got me Mark LOL Hey you need to stir the pot to bring out both sides.



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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Zagman] #6739610
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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6739615
01/22/20 11:09 AM
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The pipe that he uses is made of PVC. Does not project a Magnetic Field.

Secondly the way the trap is set and bedded reduces the magnetic field of the traps projection.

Plus, As a farmer I learned to use a dead stick to lift electric wire to keep from getting shocked. Mark uses dead and dry grass to cover his trap. This prevents the magnetic field from emanating from the trap.


What he also does is sprinkle salt over the area where the traps lays. He uses it to prevent freezing. When salt mixes with water it emits negative ions. Negative ions don’t scare a coyote . The salted area actually reduces the magnetic field intensity




This explains why it works and why Mark is right on in his description and responses. Even his references to trapping in other areas. The information can be proven with science.


The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb
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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Kirk De] #6739710
01/22/20 12:32 PM
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The pipe that he uses is made of PVC. Does not project a Magnetic Field.

Secondly the way the trap is set and bedded reduces the magnetic field of the traps projection.

Plus, As a farmer I learned to use a dead stick to lift electric wire to keep from getting shocked. Mark uses dead and dry grass to cover his trap. This prevents the magnetic field from emanating from the trap.


What he also does is sprinkle salt over the area where the traps lays. He uses it to prevent freezing. When salt mixes with water it emits negative ions. Negative ions don’t scare a coyote . The salted area actually reduces the magnetic field intensity




This explains why it works and why Mark is right on in his description and responses. Even his references to trapping in other areas. The information can be proven with science.


Where in the heck did you find that???? LOL

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6739769
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Mark
Here is a video from a few years back. It shows why yours works better when comparing the two. They both work.

Notice he uses dead grass to cover trap. Same as you. But no salt. Where you excel is using a PVC pipe. He gets almost the same results but not quite. He covers his portable pocket by placing dead grass over it and fastening dead grass to it with a zip tie. That covers the radiating magnetic field. He places lure in the covered area. By you using a PVC pipe sticking 2-3" above ground there is no emitting magnetic field and the scent is directed at a smaller area allowing for a better percentage of catches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXF8xFgrSHk


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744026
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Had lots of trouble with this set. Wind and elevation wrong and kept missing. To lazy to pull it and couldn’t guide them any more. Drove a second pipe as a loose jaw guide almost flush with the ground. Second night catch.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6968891
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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6994164
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Zag,

Can you explain the exact placement of the small hole you drill in the pipe, please? Is the hole usually below ground level after the pipe is driven? And why or why not?

Thanks!


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Kirk De] #6994627
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[quote=Kirk De]
Mark
Here is a video from a few years back. It shows why yours works better when comparing the two. They both work.

Notice he uses dead grass to cover trap. Same as you. But no salt. Where you excel is using a PVC pipe. He gets almost the same results but not quite. He covers his portable pocket by placing dead grass over it and fastening dead grass to it with a zip tie. That covers the radiating magnetic field. He places lure in the covered area. By you using a PVC pipe sticking 2-3" above ground there is no emitting magnetic field and the scent is directed at a smaller area allowing for a better percentage of catches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXF8xFgrSHk

So a grass covering will eliminate the electric magnetic field while a dirt covering won't.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: The Beav] #6995364
09/20/20 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
[quote=Kirk De]
Mark
Here is a video from a few years back. It shows why yours works better when comparing the two. They both work.

Notice he uses dead grass to cover trap. Same as you. But no salt. Where you excel is using a PVC pipe. He gets almost the same results but not quite. He covers his portable pocket by placing dead grass over it and fastening dead grass to it with a zip tie. That covers the radiating magnetic field. He places lure in the covered area. By you using a PVC pipe sticking 2-3" above ground there is no emitting magnetic field and the scent is directed at a smaller area allowing for a better percentage of catches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXF8xFgrSHk

So a grass covering will eliminate the electric magnetic field while a dirt covering won't.


Beav: What I have discovered is real. For you to denigrate something that’s real especially something that relates to the trapping industry the way that it does.How do you not understand the wording, maybe if you got someone to read to you you can understand the words. You sure haven’t read my bookMaybe you have read it and you’re one of the businesses that are affected by it. They’re afraid of it. It will change the way things are made. A magnetometer use correctly does not lie. It simply shows what you need to do or where you need to make corrections in your sets. How do you make those corrections improves your catch.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6995411
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Mark, you know anyone that has caught a wolf on the pipe dream set? I've caught several coyotes with it. Figure I'll try it on the next level canine.


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6995502
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Dooger- the hole was just a place for water to drain. so wherever. I think the last Zag demo I saw he said he doesn't drill the hole anymore. Some of his pipes still have them but the new ones do not.

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6995513
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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6996909
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Yes on the wolf in a pipe! A guy from Michigan and guy from MN minimum....

Correct on drain hole.....I stopped doing it. It can't hurt, but I lose track of the holes when they fill with mud and after a while just stopped.....plus, I have 100's of pipe already cut and just don't want to drill all of those holes! That said, I certainly have pipes well over 10 years old that still have the holes AND they are still being used. Some stink so bad, no need to even really add any more bait or lure to them!

MZ


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6997168
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Thanks Mark!!


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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6997683
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Mark. I must applaud you for your set. It is very good and effective. I use numerous others. But the way that one holds up in brutal conditions in itself has proven itself. To me, imo, there are other aspects as well. The scent perfurates very good above ground. Paw placement on the matted down chaff/grass. And, though I've never seen any work a set. I would imagine there feet move alot constantly going back and forth to pipe trying to pull it out. Again, thank you for your unselfishness. It has really done me good

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: plainstrapping25] #6997776
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Yup, you nailed it. Once you give them a taste AND assuming its something they want more of, they will make a lot of tracks to TRY to get that pipe out OR to get what's in the bottom of it.....

Like giving me an ice cream cone for a taste and THEN taking it away! LOL

MZ


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Check out Coyote U!

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6997783
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When you find a pipe chewed beyond use, laying in the middle of a road 3 months after you pulled your set, you can figure it works. Apparently I left a pipe at a set and they finally got it up.
I have a spot I can’t get the pipe up, drove it between two big roots, and I catch multiple coyotes on it every year. It’s almost chewed even with the deck, lol.

Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Zagman] #6998316
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Originally Posted by Zagman
Yup, you nailed it. Once you give them a taste AND assuming its something they want more of, they will make a lot of tracks to TRY to get that pipe out OR to get what's in the bottom of it.....

Like giving me an ice cream cone for a taste and THEN taking it away! LOL

MZ


You need to give that pipe a pet name............


Eastern Coyotes.......Western Numbers.

Check out Coyote U!

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Re: The Pipe Dream Set explained [Re: Wolfdog91] #6998718
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MZ,

The hardware is all out of 1" PVC pipe. It's either Covid-19 or Zagger.
I'm blaming Zagman. Thanks a lot bro!

Hope all is well in NY. grin

Blessings,
Mark

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