Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
[Re: Kansas Rook]
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Aren’t they made of aluminum now? We’ve got several that need replacing, soon. Thinking of going with the trapline products traps. He’s a member here and I’ve heard a lot of good things.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
[Re: Kansas Rook]
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Ive got enough old school victors to last my lifetime, I'm good there, steves traps are very effective in certain key situations where others are not, and I do acquire more each season, the gopher hawks are another good tool for moles. those 3 are what I use.......... your mileage may vary
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
[Re: Kansas Rook]
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No, the new traps arent made out of aluminum, vote for trump if you want the manufacturing done here
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils
The spring on the new model has (I think) one fewer coiled loops than the old model, which I assume is because the lighter metal cannot take as much snapping stress. I think we’re all going to be disappointed with this new model over the long haul.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils
The spring on the new model has (I think) one fewer coiled loops than the old model, which I assume is because the lighter metal cannot take as much snapping stress. I think we’re all going to be disappointed with this new model over the long haul. X2
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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I haven’t seen the new aluminum ones yet but I don’t think there necessarily would be a problem making the jaws and the body from aluminum as long as it was thick enough. I’d be more interested in seeing if the triggering mechanism and the spring are decent. He’s ALIVE! Long time no see, Steve! Whatever happened to the NEW mole trap you were working on a year or so ago? You still working on it? Good to see you on here again.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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I haven’t seen the new aluminum ones yet but I don’t think there necessarily would be a problem making the jaws and the body from aluminum as long as it was thick enough. I’d be more interested in seeing if the triggering mechanism and the spring are decent. All of my OOS traps have been either upgraded using Jordan Budinski’s Elete Mole Upgrade kit (stainless steel trip rod and step down trip pad) or bought the traps outright from him with the EMU kit installed. Besides Steve’s concern of a decent spring, my question to Bud, when he gets ahold of on of these new aluminum OOS traps, “Is your EMU kit compatible with this trap?” Jordan - Let us know if and when you get a chance to fiddle with these new traps with your upgrade kits.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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I will buy any of the old style OOS traps. PM me for info.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Thanks for the info Tony H I will avoid these
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Try a recall on those chinese made traps, they are probably flooded in lowes and home depots across the country....The sad part is, homeowners(in general) dont know the difference between a good trap and a bad trap, good for us mole trappers, but bad for consumers....
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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I have steel out of sights, made in the 60s 70s and 80s, they still kill moles....
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Early version of the off set jaws I would assume. Certainly would allow for some losses. ...and a slower death. We talk about humane lethal catches, and I’ve never quite been satisfied with the OOS in this regard. The trap jaws are spaced from the pan far enough that the jaws catch moles in the gut, not in the thoracic area where the vitals are located. One of the immediate concerns I saw with the new, weaker spring is that a mole is being hit with less force, so potentially an even slower death because the gut is merely being pinched while the mole is locked in place. The old stronger spring at least crushed the gut to expedite death. If the old, original OOS’ weren’t so stinkin’ great at catching moles, I’d opt for something different altogether.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Ive got 250 out of sights, 40 gopher hawks and about 7 dozen of steves traps, honestly, if I buy more traps it will be steves and I would'nt mind another 30 gopher hawks as well, each of those 3 types have paid for themselves over and over, the out of sights are great, quick set up, but more weight if you are walking a ways out, the trapline gopher trap has been a killer on these townsend moles, the smaller mole traps work great on the pacific moles, the gopher hawks are a great tool overall, they are a lil spendy at $24, but they have each covered their cost 10 times
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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One thing that shines with the gopher hawk, I can set at an angle underneath a sidewalk, it takes some practice, I have kind of perfected it over time, you have to prod a lot to find the right spot, the other thing Ilike about the hawks, you can binoc spot them 200 yards away across the livestock field, time is money, if no hit the next time, I will make the walk and shuffle traps
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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i'm glad i found this thread. i was just about to replace some OOS traps & saw that WDC quit carrying them. came to this forum & now i know why. i have some old OOS traps that i riveted some thin stainless steel pieces onto the trigger shoe as they were pitted & wouldn't release properly. i guess i'll refurb the rest of them. might give the gopherhawk.a try.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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"I do not know for sure, but I can only hope that they will be redesigning them to be better. We know they were horrible, we received nothing but complaints and passed them on to the manufacturer. Right now they are not available because of the redesigning."
Answer from a vendor when I asked if they knew anything about Victor going back to the original.
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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As for putting beefier springs on the new traps, I am currently looking into this. Like most other ideas, easier said than done lol
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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someone should talk to Bill Duke X2
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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Haven’t been on in a while but I thought I would hop on and provide a buyer beware thread. We just received a batch of the new design victor mole traps. We have been using out of sites for years. In my opinion the best mole trap on the market. The new traps are COMPLETE JUNK!!!! Springs are so soft they won’t fire through wet sand. If anyone has any old style victor out of sites let me know I am in the market. Stay away from the new cheap junk! Word !
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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This thread has close to 4,000 views, so there is definatley alot of people looking to get some of the old style oos traps. I just called victor and she said she hasnt heard of any complaints with the new traps, but will make a note of this and send it to management. I doubt it will get to management but if everyone thats been checking in on this thread calls them, then maybe it could turn a head or two....i realize this is wishful thinking but its better to have them hear this than us just going back and forth. Victors customer service #1-855-584-2867 That's crap and they know it. I have emailed them and given poor reviews on amazon. They have acknowledged the receipt of my concerns. read the latest reviews, not most relevant: https://www.amazon.com/Victor-OSight-Mole-Trap-0631/dp/B00004RAMY/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1LKZVUJGRIXVA&dchild=1&keywords=victor+out+of+sight+mole+trap&qid=1613172388&sprefix=victor+out+%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-2#customerReviews amazon reviews
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps
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If you do not admit to the problem then there is no problem, RIGHT! Only the people that have used the old traps know there is a problem. Anyone buying the trap will not know there is a problem. So whey fix the problem just go on selling the trap. JMO
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