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Victor Out of Site Mole Traps #7004654
09/30/20 11:39 AM
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Havenít been on in a while but I thought I would hop on and provide a buyer beware thread. We just received a batch of the new design victor mole traps. We have been using out of sites for years. In my opinion the best mole trap on the market. The new traps are COMPLETE JUNK!!!! Springs are so soft they wonít fire through wet sand. If anyone has any old style victor out of sites let me know I am in the market. Stay away from the new cheap junk!

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7005365
10/01/20 09:02 AM
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Thanks, Good to know. been picking up a few used ones, expanding my business.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7005861
10/01/20 08:18 PM
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Arenít they made of aluminum now? Weíve got several that need replacing, soon. Thinking of going with the trapline products traps. Heís a member here and Iíve heard a lot of good things.



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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7006535
10/02/20 11:56 AM
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yep after thinking I was done with mole trapping or moles in general period last year and selling everything now I'm under new company so reordered 3 dozen of the trapline traps yesterday.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7008134
10/04/20 12:39 AM
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Ive got enough old school victors to last my lifetime, I'm good there, steves traps are very effective in certain key situations where others are not, and I do acquire more each season, the gopher hawks are another good tool for moles. those 3 are what I use.......... your mileage may vary


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7008135
10/04/20 12:44 AM
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No, the new traps arent made out of aluminum, vote for trump if you want the manufacturing done here


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7009209
10/05/20 09:41 AM
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I am pretty sure the new traps are made of aluminum. It seems my suspicions have been confirmed as to the quality of the construction of the new traps. Glad I have a couple dozen of the older style traps. Guess Iím gonna have to start looking for more older ones...

I too use Trapline traps in conjunction with the OOS. Really starting to prefer the OOS for ease of checking.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7009217
10/05/20 09:51 AM
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someone should talk to Bill Duke


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7009309
10/05/20 11:13 AM
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According to WCS, the ones that they are selling are made out of aluminum- https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/animal/NWS0600.html


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: LAtrapper] #7009693
10/05/20 07:33 PM
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Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7009727
10/05/20 08:06 PM
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Iíd like to handle one so if the OP would like to sell one Iíd gladly buy it plus the shipping cost.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: dayn] #7009885
10/05/20 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dayn
Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils
The spring on the new model has (I think) one fewer coiled loops than the old model, which I assume is because the lighter metal cannot take as much snapping stress. I think weíre all going to be disappointed with this new model over the long haul.


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Joe Taylor] #7010221
10/06/20 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Taylor
Originally Posted by dayn
Wow! I stand corrected, lighter would be nice, but I wonder if they stand up over time, I assume the springs would have to be steel coils
The spring on the new model has (I think) one fewer coiled loops than the old model, which I assume is because the lighter metal cannot take as much snapping stress. I think weíre all going to be disappointed with this new model over the long haul.


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7010383
10/06/20 12:33 PM
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Really having one less coil wonít make much of a difference on how powerful it is. If anything I think it would make it stronger. With torsion springs the power is really determined Where the spring starts and ends, and how much it is preloaded when it is installed on the frame.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7015877
10/12/20 08:58 PM
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I havenít seen the new aluminum ones yet but I donít think there necessarily would be a problem making the jaws and the body from aluminum as long as it was thick enough. Iíd be more interested in seeing if the triggering mechanism and the spring are decent.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: SteveAlbano] #7016227
10/13/20 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveAlbano
I havenít seen the new aluminum ones yet but I donít think there necessarily would be a problem making the jaws and the body from aluminum as long as it was thick enough. Iíd be more interested in seeing if the triggering mechanism and the spring are decent.


Heís ALIVE! Long time no see, Steve!

Whatever happened to the NEW mole trap you were working on a year or so ago? You still working on it?

Good to see you on here again.


"Happier than a gopher in wet sand."
Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7016297
10/13/20 10:51 AM
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Thanks, Aggie! The mole trap I was working on was a really cool little trap, but only drawback was that I couldn't get it to catch moles consistently, and I couldn't figure out why. I might still play around with some details and see if I can get it to work.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7016374
10/13/20 12:44 PM
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Just got 50 of your traps Steve in last 3 weeks. I got the pilot tool that Bob Jameson sells coming this week think should be set to start with anyways. I thought I was out of the mole game last year ironically sold all my traps no back into it. Only problem been having lately ground super dry tunnels collapsing in tunnels surface runs so having to go to the mounds instead.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: SteveAlbano] #7017074
10/14/20 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveAlbano
I havenít seen the new aluminum ones yet but I donít think there necessarily would be a problem making the jaws and the body from aluminum as long as it was thick enough. Iíd be more interested in seeing if the triggering mechanism and the spring are decent.


All of my OOS traps have been either upgraded using Jordan Budinskiís Elete Mole Upgrade kit (stainless steel trip rod and step down trip pad) or bought the traps outright from him with the EMU kit installed. Besides Steveís concern of a decent spring, my question to Bud, when he gets ahold of on of these new aluminum OOS traps, ďIs your EMU kit compatible with this trap?Ē

Jordan - Let us know if and when you get a chance to fiddle with these new traps with your upgrade kits.

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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7017502
10/14/20 07:10 PM
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I will have 2 of the new aluminum OOS traps in hand tomorrow and plan on slapping Jordanís kits on them. Will know more tomorrow.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7018357
10/15/20 07:37 PM
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I will buy any of the old style OOS traps. PM me for info.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7019586
10/17/20 09:18 AM
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Here are a few pics of the new Aluminum OOS traps. Last few photos compare them to the old style. To say that Iím disappointed is an understatement. Fit and finish is absolutely awful! Sloppy deburing, spotty powder coating, and rust on it fresh out of the box. Wow! The spring is so weak that you can very easily set these by hand. Iím worried they wonít power through the soil if you bed them properly. I will try them out but I have my doubts.

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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7019749
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pax4h_Jss9Y&feature=youtu.be

Here is a quick video of the trap not working. I precut the slots in the ground deeper and wider than I normally do. Fail.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Tony H] #7019870
10/17/20 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony H
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pax4h_Jss9Y&feature=youtu.be
Here is a quick video of the trap not working. I precut the slots in the ground deeper and wider than I normally do. Fail.
Thanks for filming. To seal the deal on its failure, it would be interesting to see an old style trap put into the slot after that failure to show how the old traps cuts through. I hope Victor sees that this is a useless product and brings back the old model.


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7019903
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If I get some more time I will do just that. The springs on these traps are geared more towards chip clips.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7020447
10/18/20 12:40 PM
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The ones I have handled I wouldnt buy or use.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Tony H] #7023337
10/21/20 03:37 PM
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Thanks for the info Tony H I will avoid these


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7026962
10/25/20 10:58 AM
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I got a sample of the new trap a couple of days ago. The main difference I see is that the spring on the new trap is made from a much thinner wire and it's a much weaker spring. No need for those setting bars anymore. LOL.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7027846
10/26/20 08:14 AM
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My boss used 2 of the new style the other day they broke just setting them.

Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7027852
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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7027878
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ouch


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Re: Victor Out of Site Mole Traps [Re: Kansas Rook] #7028082
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That sucks!


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