Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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Yep, caught part of the news conference at lunch. Switched over to MSNBC for a minute or so and the talking heads were drooling they were so excited. Antifa and BLM now have even more media cover through the election. Interesting the 7 they arrested were all within about 5 years of each other in age, late 30s through early 40s. The witch should be emboldened even further...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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Sounds like a dirty bunch. Put them so far away you have to pipe sunlight to them!
Providing wild fur to the industry at below the cost of production for over 50 years.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Why wouldn't they be arrested? They (allegedly) conspired to kidnap a governor. The question is....why were they instantly labeled a militia?
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Why wouldn't they be arrested? They (allegedly) conspired to kidnap a governor. The question is....why were they instantly labeled a militia? Because that's what they called themselves
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Re: Militia Arrested
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They were only talking and get arrested but blm and antifa burned down whole blocks and thats ok???
What a twisted world we live in!!!
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Re: Militia Arrested
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its against the law to talk about planning stuff like that-Its called conspiracy.There was a wired mole in their organization that ratted them out from what I gathered from reports.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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They were only talking and get arrested but blm and antifa burned down whole blocks and thats ok???
What a twisted world we live in!!! Its OK for some Hollyweird jerks to say they want to punch Trump and burn down the Whitehouse though.
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: GROUSEWIT]
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They were only talking and get arrested but blm and antifa burned down whole blocks and thats ok???
What a twisted world we live in!!! The young democrats of blm and antifa have also killed a lot of people, including police officers and severely beaten thousands more. Keith
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: Boco]
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its against the law to talk about planning stuff like that-Its called conspiracy.There was a wired mole in their organization that ratted them out from what I gathered from reports. Perhaps they were discussing an action movie project or Mystery novel?
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I find it amazing the Gov. can stop this, arrest and book the perps in record time. Yet BLM ,Antifa and other assorted marxist orgs. that are murdering people, burning out neighborhoods and terrorizing people are too difficult too be caught. Must be a matter of priorities?
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I find it amazing the Gov. can stop this, arrest and book the perps in record time. Yet BLM ,Antifa and other assorted marxist orgs. that are murdering people, burning out neighborhoods and terrorizing people are too difficult too be caught. x2
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Re: Militia Arrested
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They were allegedly plotting to make an assault including up to 200 armed men, in order to overthrow the govt and kidnap her.
I’m all for varying political views folks, but can we be clear for a second what is being alleged here?
If they were going to do this, the law enforcement and security around her, her staffers from those highest up to people just cleaning in the building, all would have been in the line of fire.
I’m not for any violence toward others that falls outside our laws and this is no exception.
Hate her, like her, don’t care about her.
You are talking about a US Governor being kidnapped and a US state govt overthrown by a group of radicals.
If you don’t support radicals of any kind we are in good company. If you only support those that support your views.
Well.....
I know many of you have fought for this country, currently fight for this country and have lost those who have fought for this country.
We need both sides to be able to call out those who radicalize and stop being ready to justify anyone who tilts toward our side.
I know nothing of this incident yet other than headlines so I can't yet speak to it. However let me speak to the veteran bit. I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States not an oath of loyalty to any political entity.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I live in Michigan, living under the rule of this crazy tyrant of a governor. She will now milk this for every political wedge she can hammer. Our Governor openly works for the Biden campaign. It will be blamed on Trump before sunrise. The kidnappers would have brought her back and surrendered, once they started feeding and watering her, and listen to her voice.
you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
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Re: Militia Arrested
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She will now milk this for every political wedge she can hammer. Our Governor openly works for the Biden campaign. It will be blamed on Trump before sunrise. You should have said "sundown". Witmer said that it was Trump 'encouraging" such people that caused them to plan this act. She isa scary person...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I live in Michigan, living under the rule of this crazy tyrant of a governor. She will now milk this for every political wedge she can hammer. Our Governor openly works for the Biden campaign. It will be blamed on Trump before sunrise. The kidnappers would have brought her back and surrendered, once they started feeding and watering her, and listen to her voice. I saw her press conference. She already blamed Trump saying that he didn't condemn white supremacists, which is a lie.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I wonder where else undercover fbi agents are planted
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I wonder where else undercover fbi agents are planted Seeing how any “uprising” puts you in the criminal category I would think committing a crime would be a requirement to join.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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The encouragement is coming from the democrats desire to shred the constitution.
True statement
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Re: Militia Arrested
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you dont think an undercover fbi agent will commit a felony to become "one of the boys"?
I wonder why there are none running with antifa and blm.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Did I ever tell the story about the "very curious" man who came and checked out my AR-15 that I listed for sale in the paper in the mid-1990s...? The only guy who ever showed up. The red flag got raised when he asked me, "how much ammo do you have for this rifle...?" Now why would he ask that, I wasn't selling ammo in the paper ad. I sidestepped the question. He asked a few more things, looked at the rifle a bit more, left, and I never heard from him again.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Militia Arrested
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you dont think an undercover fbi agent will commit a felony to become "one of the boys"?
I wonder why there are none running with antifa and blm. I've been told you could always spot the fed in Mississippi. He was the guy with the dynamite encouraging others to bomb something.
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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I am sure somebody in NSA or FBI or some other alphabet ,reads forums like this one. I am sure there are alphabets who read armslist gunbroker and the like. Since they can and do monitor all electronic communication I am sure the feds and maybe some states have a real good idea who has been building "ghost guns" and who has large, or small, stockpiles of ammo.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Militia Arrested
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People in government spent/squandered 50 or 60 million of our tax dollars trying to oust Trump. Nobody gets arrested by the fbi for that. Funny how things work, ain't it. Not going to get arrested by the FBI when the FBI was in on the plot to oust Trump.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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The liberals are already blaming Trump for their actions because he had said some uncomplimentary things about her in the past. Unbelievable.
I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I am sure somebody in NSA or FBI or some other alphabet ,reads forums like this one. I am sure there are alphabets who read armslist gunbroker and the like. Since they can and do monitor all electronic communication I am sure the feds and maybe some states have a real good idea who has been building "ghost guns" and who has large, or small, stockpiles of ammo. Not only do they have the ability to monitor all internet traffic but our phone calls as well.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Not only do they have the ability to monitor all internet traffic but our phone calls as well. Yeah, they harvest everything electronic but its such a blizzard of data that people don't read all of it. They search it with AI/ML programs and filter most of the stuff away (still keep it but basically "filed"). I'll bet a steak dinner that they did this the old fashioned way of putting people under surveillance and infiltrating the group. I think there is way more "hard core" forums they watch more closely than tman...
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I wonder where else undercover fbi agents are planted If you have guns they know you
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Did I ever tell the story about the "very curious" man who came and checked out my AR-15 that I listed for sale in the paper in the mid-1990s...? The only guy who ever showed up. The red flag got raised when he asked me, "how much ammo do you have for this rifle...?" Now why would he ask that, I wasn't selling ammo in the paper ad. I sidestepped the question. He asked a few more things, looked at the rifle a bit more, left, and I never heard from him again. Same happened to me on more than one occasion .They think you have no intelligence and to me their tactics are an insult.
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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All those militia types are anarchists they have no respect for duly elected govt,and dont want gov't.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Militia Arrested
[Re: wr otis]
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What if they would have approached it from a purely legal position to have her charged and trialed for treason.
More than a couple governors have ignored the constitution during the scamdemic. Not enough money or lawyers to take up their cause.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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I don't in anyway support anarchist groups.. .but in the same breath, I have to point out that those that fought in the American Revolution for our independence were technically doing the same thing. They Organized from a militia into an Army with gorilla groups. They fought against a government they considered tyrannical, and over threw it.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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What's this flag? I've never seen anything like it. It almost looks like it's out of a video game. A lot of companies sell merchandise like this out of their made up worlds.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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All those militia types are anarchists they have no respect for duly elected govt,and dont want gov't. And the duly elected government has no respect for the Constitution or laws.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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There is an election coming up-if they are not doing what they were elected by the people to do they will be voted out. A small minority of yahoos cannot remove the government that the majority of the electorate chooses-except maybe in some third world bannanna republics.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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There is an election coming up-if they are not doing what they were elected by the people to do they will be voted out. A small minority of yahoos cannot remove the government that the majority of the electorate chooses-except maybe in some third world bannanna republics. You have to have people in government willing to function within the parameters of the law or they become illegitimate and tossing them out by force might be the only option.
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If the peoples government elected by a majority is thrown out by a minority that would not be democratic. If a government loses an election and does not leave,then it would be democratic for the majority to throw them out by force if they used the military or police force to try to hang on to an illegitimate seat. Either way-those things only occur in banana republics.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If the peoples government elected by a majority is thrown out by a minority that would not be democratic. If a government loses an election and does not leave,then it would be democratic for the majority to throw them out by force if they used the military or police force to try to hang on to an illegitimate seat. Either way-those things only occur in banana republics. Louis Riel and the Metis overthrew the Saskatchewan Government back in the day. Guess that makes Canada a banana republic !!!
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If they don’t follow the constitution then we are no longer a Constitutional Republic. The NFL is more demanding in their rules enforcement of a football game than congress is in their adherence to our constitution.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If the peoples government elected by a majority is thrown out by a minority that would not be democratic. If a government loses an election and does not leave,then it would be democratic for the majority to throw them out by force if they used the military or police force to try to hang on to an illegitimate seat. Either way-those things only occur in banana republics. Louis Riel and the Metis overthrew the Saskatchewan Government back in the day. Guess that makes Canada a banana republic !!! They tried,Louis Riel was hung as a traitor when John A. found out he tried to get Americans to help him. He wasnt too smart,he should have known better than to get help from Americans after they were whipped in 1812.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Louis Riel and the Metis overthrew the Saskatchewan Government back in the day. Guess that makes Canada a banana republic !!! They tried,Louis Riel was hung as a traitor when John A. found out he tried to get Americans to help him. He wasnt too smart,he should have known better than to get help from Americans after they were whipped in 1812. Sir John A. MacDonald needed sensitivity training and should have listened to the Complaints of the Metis instead of screwing them over. It's a shame what they did to Louis Riel, the founder of Manitoba, and a true leader in the early days of Canada's founding. Lots of skeletons in the Canadian closet, BOCO and proof positive that Canada really is a Banana Republic. LMAO w
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If a National Referendum were held right now in Canada, the Provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and possibly even Manly Manitoba would vote to secede and join the United States of America. You in Ontario would be left hugging the frogs in Quebec !!! Quebec could probably take you in an inter-province skirmish !!! w
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If they don’t follow the constitution then we are no longer a Constitutional Republic. The NFL is more demanding in their rules enforcement of a football game than congress is in their adherence to our constitution. So there you go, voting has done nothing.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If a National Referendum were held right now in Canada, the Provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and possibly even Manly Manitoba would vote to secede and join the United States of America. You in Ontario would be left hugging the frogs in Quebec !!! Quebec could probably take you in an inter-province skirmish !!! w Any of those idiots can leave any time they want,and Hope the door dont hit them in the arse on their way out.Dont know where they are gonna go though most of the land over there is Native land and they will stay in Canada.Them western separatists can just move to the USA en masse like the Mexicans. Thats what happened in Quebec when they wanted to leave-they found out they would only be leaving with a little strip of land along the USA border,all the rest is Indian land and the Indians told them they were Canucks. It all went downhill after that and the frenchmen separatists have been good Canadians ever since.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Conservatives complaining about the legislative branch and not wanting respect its authority sounds an awful lot like snowflake liberals not recognizing Trump as the executive.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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You have to ask: How many politicians say one thing to get elected the do something totally different once they are elected. However every four years in a republic the people can reward them for lying and acting like a dictator by sending them packing. I definitely don't agree with a lot they do especially pelosi and the like but They aren't mine to elect or vote out. That still doesn't give me the right to attempt to kill them or kidnap them or try them for treason or overthrow their liberal cohorts. I can only exercise my 1st amendment rights and try to convince others to vote them out. That is how a civilized republic works. I don't like it but if I we were to throw it all away then we become no better than the ones doing it. My Grandpa always told me if you want to fight with a pig you have to get down in the mud with it. I choose the high ground and do my part as long as it remains a democratic republic.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Conservatives complaining about the legislative branch and not wanting respect its authority sounds an awful lot like snowflake liberals not recognizing Trump as the executive. Please show me where Trump has expressed a desire to shred the Constitution.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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There is an election coming up-if they are not doing what they were elected by the people to do they will be voted out. A small minority of yahoos cannot remove the government that the majority of the electorate chooses-except maybe in some third world bannanna republics. You have to have people in government willing to function within the parameters of the law or they become illegitimate and tossing them out by force might be the only option. Truer words were never spoken. Especially those scumbags with no term limits.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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You have to ask: How many politicians say one thing to get elected the do something totally different once they are elected. However every four years in a republic the people can reward them for lying and acting like a dictator by sending them packing. I definitely don't agree with a lot they do especially pelosi and the like but They aren't mine to elect or vote out. That still doesn't give me the right to attempt to kill them or kidnap them or try them for treason or overthrow their liberal cohorts. I can only exercise my 1st amendment rights and try to convince others to vote them out. That is how a civilized republic works. I don't like it but if I we were to throw it all away then we become no better than the ones doing it. My Grandpa always told me if you want to fight with a pig you have to get down in the mud with it. I choose the high ground and do my part as long as it remains a democratic republic. Good post turkn8r.
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Re: Militia Arrested
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If the peoples government elected by a majority is thrown out by a minority that would not be democratic. If a government loses an election and does not leave,then it would be democratic for the majority to throw them out by force if they used the military or police force to try to hang on to an illegitimate seat. Either way-those things only occur in banana republics. Nico, this country was founded by a group of men who were in the minority at the time. You are an enigma to me. You supported the IRA who killed, women, children and civilians. Wasn't the government of england democratically elected. Don't get me wrong, I don't support these yahoos but there may come a time when a defensive stance is the right thing to do
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Re: Militia Arrested
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Is there anyone in your country not allowed to vote or work? Yes I support IRA.You do not know anything about the North. Up until the 70's a large segment of Northern Ireland was not allowed the vote(nor work) and 6 out of 32 counties was occupied with foreign soldiers.The other 26 counties were Liberated by the IRA in the Late 20's.However the killing of British occupiers had been going on since Cromwell invaded in the middle ages. You believe British propaganda. It had nothing to do with religion.It was a continuation of the fight for freedom from Britain.There may have been a few innocents died as a result of fight against the british army occupation,but they were unintended,Unlike all the civilians shot and killed by the british ON PURPOSE. Things have changed a lot since I was over there in the mid 70's,now that the Irish in Ulster are allowed to vote, work and acess decent housing.Since they have been able to get representation,their lives have improved immensely.And the British soldiers have all gone home. But until partition of the country ends,the struggle will continue albeit on a different level these days.However there is still a large group of men and women who will take up arms in a heartbeat if necessary.
You wont get far without support from the people.A handfull of yahoos wont do it. Washington had support of the people-a large MAJORITY-not a small minority-so much so that he was able to amass a standing army.You compare that to the michigan militia-thats a joke right?
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Conservatives complaining about the legislative branch and not wanting respect its authority sounds an awful lot like snowflake liberals not recognizing Trump as the executive. Please show me where Trump has expressed a desire to shred the Constitution. That's too easy. "Take the guns first. Go through due process second. I like taking the guns early".
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Trump shredded the Constitution, by talking, got it. Hobbie asked where Trump expressed a desire to shred the constitution,not where he's taken action to shred the constitution. I gave an example of a statement of trump expressing a desire to do something that would blatantly violate the constitution. Taking guns before giving due process would violate the 2nd and 5th amendments. You may not like it, but let's not pretend he didn't say it and let's not pretend it was a bad thing to say.
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Trump shredded the Constitution, by talking, got it. Hobbie asked where Trump expressed a desire to shred the constitution,not where he's taken action to shred the constitution. I gave an example of a statement of trump expressing a desire to do something that would blatantly violate the constitution. Taking guns before giving due process would violate the 2nd and 5th amendments. You may not like it, but let's not pretend he didn't say it and let's not pretend it was a bad thing to say. He did say that, but the guy he was talking about was already deemed unfit to own guns.the context of the whole conversation needs to be considered. And yes, that was alarming.
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