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Explain trap line dogs to me #7024136
10/22/20 12:26 PM
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Every time I read a post about a trap line dog I probably read it a 2nd time trying to figure out the benefit of having one. To me, it would seem to be a great way for him (or her) to be making scent posts while I was pounding in a hole and giving a coyote and excuse to work something besides my set.

What am I missing? What advantages would a dog on the line give you?


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024142
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I agree that they could be a big advantage, but (like everything else) some seem to think it is a waste. Idk, but I'm interested in other thoughts as well.


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024148
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Mark set locations for lure shy animals, follow drags, find missing traps, tree lions/bear, decoy and work coyotes in between checking sets. That's just scraping the surface of things they're handy for. They can be a pain in the butt, but benefits far outweigh costs for me.

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024151
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They can be used for finding beaver bank dens. I've heard of other guys using them to find animals when using drags. I'm not a K9 trapper, but I've heard of guys using them to locate K9 set locations. I guess they watch what draws the dog's interest and then make the set there.

Every time I've had a dog with me on the line, it becomes more of a hassle than it's worth. I've brought young pups with me on remote walk in beaver jobs to get them used to being in the woods. However, it doesn't take them long to get used to that and then they're typically off in the next county and you're spending the rest of the day tracking them down. I've had pups break through the thin ice around feed piles...good opportunity for them to learn how to get out on their own cuz if they go through, this fat guy will too!

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024152
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Leftlane:

I have a dog and I'd consider myself at a disadvantage without him. On most days. But I suspect that's because of where and how I trap.

As to your concern that he'd be off making his own scent posts, I guess it happens. But I notice when my dog gets out of the truck he's looking for the scent station he suspects is already there. He looks and sniffs and usually will lock in on a spot, give it a good long whiff, and then lift his leg. That's where one of the traps typically goes.

I use a lot of drags in my country so he's pretty valuable for finding animals on drags, especially cats (which as you know can hide real well). On coyotes, I trap some pretty open country and in some situations (for lots of different reasons) need to use a drag. Generally I can track a coyote fairly easily, but my four legged friend can track it on a dead run, saving me time and often energy because he will locate the coyote so I can take a direct route, as opposed to what is often the circular route the coyote takes.

Finally, I check most of my traps in the dark, before or after work. The dog knows where the traps are so often I can just open the door of the truck (he insists on riding shotgun), let him out, and listen. If he barks, I've obviously caught something. If there is no catch, he'll come back to the truck pretty quick and we move on down the line.

I'm not trying to convince you to get a dog. If you've trapped this long without one, then it may not do you much good.


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024179
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My "trapline" dogs are with me for companionship and nothing else. They earn their food in the grouse woods, pheasant fields and duck blinds.

I've often heard the old saw about a dog showing you where to make scent posts. Well, I run all male dogs and if i made a set everywhere they marked I'd be out of traps before i left the first farm. LOL

I already know where to make the productive scent posts from scouting and following tracks in the snow. I don't need my dogs showing me a few dozen other possible locations.

I can see where they'd be useful in locating critters that ran off with your drags. But i don't run drags.

So, to me, a good trapline dog is just an obedient companion to keep me company on the line.





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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024216
10/22/20 01:49 PM
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I wondered Lugnut. Laz- I imagine you are right once a guy got used to having a dog w/ him he would learn to use it to his advantage. I have used dogs and even saddled horses when I couldn't find an cat on a drag. Both times I looked all over and found them very close to where they started. I might over look them but the dog didn't LOL. Made me feel silly


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024217
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My pup will mark where I ask him to. He will also dig where I ask him to. He hasn't been on the line yet as he is only 10 months old. Have been working with him to run the line with me. A few friends that used dogs on the line have had great results. Zagman and Stink come to mind as fellas that figured out why the dog is a benefit on the k9 line.

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024261
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I have learned a lot from watching a dog.

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024275
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My dog finds a place to make a set and since I have gotten old and forgetful he sometimes leads me back to the pickup. Oh, and then he leads me back to the sets.

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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024293
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Someone has to taste test my baits to see if their any good or not, I most certainly aren't going to try them! Companionship is a biggie for me. He may be running around while I'm making a set but I figure that'll just peak the interest on any canine that comes around. Maybe it'll work the area a bit harder, I don't know but he's
nice to have around. As far as marking spots he hasn't seemed to figure that one out as he'll only mark it if he feels dominant. Apparently he doesn't feel that way around coyotes as he waits till we get home to do that. Hates woodchucks and raccoons but is afraid of house cats. He's young but coming around.

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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024357
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My dog is great at telling me where to make sets, is better at finding sign then me, and has found a few critters on drags that would've taken me 10x as long to find. Plus just good to have some company I think.

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024362
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if i make a dirthole im going to make a scentpost near by and if it is where one is already , all the better . because the first thing a coyote is going to do after encountering a dirthole is pee on somthhing

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024429
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My hound goes with me on the line for many reasons 1) exercise 2) hunt cats and lions 3) help. That's just to name a few.
I've been on snow covered cliffs with a backtoe caught bobcat the hound helped distract the cat while I figured how to dispatch safely. Only 1 direction was safe enough with all circumstances given and I was downhill. If i lost my footing it was 200' down. Joy went toe to toe with the cat

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024461
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Adult coyotes tend to get upset when someone trespasses, they react to it, ogorman said it can add ten percent to your catch.
When my dog barks at them they are focused on that instead of taking off.
A dog can help recover animals on a drag, mine chased one into a tangle of willows after popping stake out on snare as i pulled up, id hate to go without one

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024487
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Wouldn't go without my dog, for the reasons above. Better company than people too! grin


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024567
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It's not just having a dog It's having the right dog and you have to be a dog person not all people are dog people.

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7024570
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Wouldn't go without my dog, for the reasons above. Better company than people too! grin

Plus the dog won't steal

Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7024664
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I've always said the more I deal with people, the more I like my dog!
Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Wouldn't go without my dog, for the reasons above. Better company than people too! grin


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Re: Explain trap line dogs to me [Re: Leftlane] #7024784
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I think it let's the coyote think about the dog and less about me.

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