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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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07/09/20 11:08 AM
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Have no Idea. Are you set In your ways to use this system? Are you willing to stand with your hands and arms above your head and pull down on your fleshing knife? It seems to me with this type of system you have very little control and It's going to be hard to put any pressure on the knife. It just seems you would wear out a lot quicker with this system. Maybe I'm wrong but It just seems a bit awkward In doing It this way. Then your going to have to reposition the hide several times as you flesh that hide.
But good luck If you go this route.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
[Re: Farmdog]
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07/09/20 05:38 PM
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I have watched videos of guys like Sam wood use an english system and it seems i would not like it personally. Sam does make it look pretty slick for him though.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
[Re: Farmdog]
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10/05/20 01:40 PM
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What trade used the vertical system?
I have been around 100s of professional fur processors and I have yet to see any one flesh a critter In the vertical position. I don't see how you can put any pressure or for that matter control the knife with your arms sticking out In front of you or at shoulder height. Then of coarse they must be lots of rearranging of the hide so you don't have to get down on your knees to finish the bottom portion. On a horizontal beam just a flick of your knife and the hide is re positioned so you can start again. And doing beaver that way In my opinion would be real nightmare. Then of coarse all the scrapings would end up on the top of your boots. LOL
No one will ever convince me that vertical fleshing Is better then using a horizontal beam.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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10/05/20 03:03 PM
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A lot of the native women up north flesh like that,sitting down and pulling the scraper down on the beam which is standing up in front of them.. It is the same way they grain moosehides for tanning.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
[Re: Farmdog]
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10/06/20 01:54 PM
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In the second flick the guy has to re position the hide way to many times. When I flesh a coon I start with the leg hole up that way I'm doing half the hide then I rotate the hide and do the other half. Works a lot better then moving the hide 4 times.
And It looks like that coon has already had some knife work done before the flick starts.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
[Re: Farmdog]
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10/07/20 01:57 AM
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I know when I'm leaning over my horizontal beam I'm not bending my back as I'm using my knife. And there Is very little shoulder movement. It's pretty much all arm movement. But I guess If it works for you have at It.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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10/09/20 06:52 PM
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I was down in the back so bad about ten years ago that I tried a vertical beam. I know a number of guys that use them, and if you learn on them, they seem to like them. My big complaint was that there were too many dingleberrys left in the fur where you came off the fur onto the beam. I'm picky about my fur, and want it clean, and there is no way you can do it on a vertical, because you "hammer" the fat off with a dull knife and have no real control. On a horizontal beam, you can push off all the dingleberries of fat that get in the fur, so I didn't use it very long. Once my back got better, I went back to the way I learned, and still like it better.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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10/18/20 07:18 PM
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If he’s still in Williamsport he’s very close to my business. I have his system
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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11/29/20 10:41 PM
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I've got a Sheffield fleshing knife that I use with the horizontal beam style of fleshing. Is that knife really designed for the vertical style of fleshing? It can be used for it. Only difference is the concave side of the knife is run sharp on the vertical beam. You start out with the sharp knive behind the ears, and shave down to where you can use the dull knife to "hammer" it off. The sharp knife is just used on the back like most fleshing, but the vertical takes two knives.
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Re: Blue English Fleshing system
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11/30/20 10:24 PM
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I have had surgery on both shoulders no way I could use that system from the way I see the Skinner using his shoulder.
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