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News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection #7031664
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Management should now go back to the states which is great. I do not believe in getting rid of all wolves but definitely lowering and managing the population.


https://www.startribune.com/gray-wolf-loses-endangered-species-act-protections/572911931/



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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031671
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6K wolves nationwide??
There's 3K in Wisconsin alone!!


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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031704
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I'm willing to take a few out in the UP

Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: DuxDawg] #7031713
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
6K wolves nationwide??
There's 3K in Wisconsin alone!!


That's why having them off of the Federal Endangered Species List is so important and allowing states to manage wolves with hunting and trapping.

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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031733
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If this moves forward well, lets not screw it up again and again. The good thing is that much research and observation has taken place while the suspension of harvesting has been taking place. The more science knows about wolves and wolf management the better off we will be in keeping a harvest as part of the management program. I am guessing that the heavy wolf population areas of MN, WI and MI are very similar in their ecology, species etc. and thus a decent regional management plan or goals can be put together. There are tribal lands that are a large part of the picture and a whole lot of public land be it federal, state or county as well. To me the first objective with a harvest plan should be to determine the "appropriate" population for the prime wolf habitat areas. Trimming that population will slow the dispersal of wolves into the higher human and agriculture regions where depredation increases significantly. We as harvesters also need to be willing to harvest in those marginal areas where populations are lower but interaction greater. That means more work and effort on the part of trappers and hunters.

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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: DuxDawg] #7031742
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It sounds really good!
But I have a bad feeling here in Wi, our state law makers along with our DNR will somehow, someway foil this...
I'll make an estimate the Wi Liberal DNR comes up with an insult for a wolf season.
Meaning, something stupid like a 25 wolf quota for the whole state just so they can say
"there.. you have your wolf season now..."

I hope I am wrong, but I'll believe it when I see a sensible, population controlling season.

Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: Hatchetman] #7031755
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I doubt much that the quota will be below what it was when the season opened years ago. What needs to be done is how to manage the harvest in the areas where there are a lot of wolves and those are the areas where they want the higher populations. During the last seasons some of those zones were overharvested in 2 days. That situation needs to be addressed and managed. We had zones that never closed as the wolf population was lower, more distributed and harder to target but in the more agriculture areas. That is why I am hoping that we at least address the population numbers and maybe goals from a regional bases first and then go to more state and local plans.

Bryce

Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031794
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It's all good until the bunny huggers get an activist judge to put a stay on the removal.

Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: EdP] #7031800
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Originally Posted by EdP
It's all good until the bunny huggers get an activist judge to put a stay on the removal.

Sad but true


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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031813
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Delisting is a good thing. Maybe it will stick this time. Protected wolves and livestock is never a good idea.


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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: 330-Trapper] #7031828
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by EdP
It's all good until the bunny huggers get an activist judge to put a stay on the removal.

Sad but true


Trump has shown the way, time for us to drain the state and local swamps!

Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031860
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I wonder if the moose population now makes an incredible comeback......

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Our AG led the charge that stopped it before don't be surprised if you hear her name for the 2nd time


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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: 330-Trapper] #7031865
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by EdP
It's all good until the bunny huggers get an activist judge to put a stay on the removal.

Sad but true

I remember when they stopped giving the manatees protection in Florida. The 'Save the manatee ' club had a fit. They raised a stink , filled lawsuits etc. The manatees had recovered , sometimes because of warm water outflows of nuclear power plants that helped them through the winter months. The save the manatee club was upset they couldn't no longer shut down certain waterways and restrict travel on others to a crawl and other tyrannical restrictions. For the record , I am all for manatees. Good animals , due respect on their survival.

What this boiled down to was the loss of funds and contributions to save the manatee. Their money flow stopped almost overnight. Also loss of tyrannical restrictions and control over waterways and fishing areas. Follow the money and tyrannical control. This will be true for wolves as well.


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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: trapperinfo] #7031916
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I can hardly wait to see how Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers (aka the Crypt Keeper) handles this. All I know is that I have 3 Preference Points.

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Re: News!!! - Wolf loses Endangered Species Protection [Re: warrior] #7031952
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Originally Posted by warrior

Trump has shown the way, time for us to drain the state and local swamps!


This!
And for so many reasons too.


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^^^^^^^^this ^^^^^

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Our POS gov here in MN needs to go.

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Originally Posted by trapperinfo
I wonder if the moose population now makes an incredible comeback......


Nope, not a chance, if they "manage" the population as conservatively as the last time it opened.

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Originally Posted by trapperman222
Our POS gov here in MN needs to go.


Too bad he is not on the ballot this time to get swept away by the Red Wave.

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