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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047282
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Its every 2 yrs. Without fail here the anti's push there agenda's


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Law Dog] #7047287
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
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I believe checking them when you can get to it will lead to not having them to check a lot quicker than having the wildlife management folks setting a regulation.

But carry on.


If your on a 24 hour check now what would he next anti step be then, it’s not hard to sum it up. There is a big difference between the East coast and the plains states and hobby VS daylong trappers needs. Nobody said unlimited trap checks but checking all day everyday has no room for fur put up and daily responsibilities.

The antis tried that 24 hour stuff last year our game and fish replied with a 3 day statewide check in the end the 2 day East River and 3 day west River stayed in place, again the Antis introduced the 24 hour idea take that for what it’s worth.


We are once per calendar day here for non-lethal and once every two calendar days for lethal.

The time management thing and regulations issue is a familiar experience. Not from trapping but OTR trucking, brought on by the anti-trucking public and their lawyers. lol


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047301
11/12/20 01:17 PM
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Pets. I think 36 hours makes sense and is one rule pa got right. For lethal sets it should be different.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Boco] #7047310
11/12/20 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The statement that you cant catch another animal if there is an animal already in the trap is only true if you only set one trap.
No one I know only sets one trap.Trappers normally set fur pockets with multiple sets per pocket.


I made that statement Bobo and I always set at least two, sometimes three and even four sets at a canine location. I catch doubles all the time a triples are not rare.

I stand by that statement, you can't catch another critter if your traps already have a critter in them.


Eh...wot?

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047317
11/12/20 01:31 PM
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Numbnuts-You're not setting enough if your missing fur on multi day checks.
One guy posted a pic on another site with 12 coyotes at one spot-he knows how its done.

Last edited by Boco; 11/12/20 01:31 PM.

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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047318
11/12/20 01:32 PM
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Yeah, okay.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047321
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I'll just throw a dozen sets in at each location then I won't have to check for a week or so eh Bobo?


Eh...wot?

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047326
11/12/20 01:37 PM
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Thats correct Numbnuts if the fur pocket dictates that amount.
A professional trapper doesnt just go around and set dozens of traps at each spot and say a couple hail marys,lol.
You obviously dont have a clue about how to longline and run muti day checks.

Last edited by Boco; 11/12/20 01:39 PM.

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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047327
11/12/20 01:38 PM
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Out here, checking your sets (even being in the general area) everyday drastically reduces your catch. It took me a couple years when I first started trapping out here, to figure that out. I was from Iowa and the daily check was just how it was done. Distance between good trappable areas is also a concern in the west, my line is around 185 miles, just can't do that every day, I leave in the dark and get home in the dark. As mentioned in a number of prior posts, animal density is nowhere near as that in the eastern or midwestern states. The rules/regs should be applied to different states and areas based on their particular situations.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047331
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Thats spot on castormound-but densitys can be quite high in the north and setting multiples for animals that are cannibalistic like lynx not only gets you multiple catches but eliminates cannibalism on caught dead animals.
Some guys here work more than one registered trapline hundreds of miles apart.They will run all lethal sets on a seven or 8 day check and run 2 or 3 lines on each trapground simultaneously.They will go north to a marten line,for example,stay at camp for 3 days and run 3 separate lines each day,then one day to skin,then one to travel to the other ground-run two or 3 lines there,then repeat.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Boco] #7047334
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Originally Posted by Boco
You obviously dont have a clue about how to longline and run muti day checks.


Never said I did. Doesn't sound like you do either but keep trying to convince me if you like you great and mighty long-liner. LOL


Eh...wot?

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Lugnut] #7047338
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Boco
You obviously dont have a clue about how to longline and run muti day checks.


Never said I did. Doesn't sound like you do either but keep trying to convince me if you like.


Done it for decades.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047339
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So what?


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047344
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Maybe Boco can come down and teach Phil about long-lining for fox Lug. lol

I've seen pics of his traps plugged on a 24hr check and it be a good bet Phil would out catch boco.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047348
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Boco, you have good trapping info to share but you are totally ignorant when it comes to different methods for different areas.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Boco] #7047357
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Originally Posted by Boco
Thats spot on castormound-but densitys can be quite high in the north and setting multiples for animals that are cannibalistic like lynx not only gets you multiple catches but eliminates cannibalism on caught dead animals.
Some guys here work more than one registered trapline hundreds of miles apart.They will run all lethal sets on a seven or 8 day check and run 2 or 3 lines on each trapground simultaneously.They will go north to a marten line,for example,stay at camp for 3 days and run 3 separate lines each day,then one day to skin,then one to travel to the other ground-run two or 3 lines there,then repeat.


I think that's good clarification, we do have high density spots/areas, but they are spread out and a trapper has to cover a lot of miles between them with nothing set is the low density areas. We don't have a big problem with cannabalism, but eagles can give us fits. Pumas will eat things in traps, but my experience is that when the pumas move in, everything else skeedaddles anyway.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: hippie] #7047368
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Originally Posted by hippie
Maybe Boco can come down and teach Phil about long-lining for fox Lug. lol

I've seen pics of his traps plugged on a 24hr check and it be a good bet Phil would out catch boco.


Wait a minute-who said you have to do that in your area?
I am explaining the benefits of multi day checks.You can run more lines.
With a mandatory 24 hr check you dont have that option.
No one forces you to not check every 24 hours on multi day check jurisdictions,DUH!


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: hippie] #7047370
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Originally Posted by hippie
Boco, you have good trapping info to share but you are totally ignorant when it comes to different methods for different areas.


On multi day check jurisdictions no one forces you not to check every day if you want.
Now tell me what is the benefit to mandated 24 hour check times that cannot be realized by a multi day checktime?
Please explain to me what is ignorant about this stand.

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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Boco] #7047378
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Originally Posted by Boco

Now tell me what is the benefit to mandated 24 hour check times that cannot be realized by a multi day checktime?
Please explain to me what is ignorant about this stand.


Simple, because there are slob trappers that would not check their traps within a reasonable amount of time, we have them now and at least with the law they can be punished. Some trap sets should be checked daily and you know some I'm sure. I can not on a public forum (or won't) say the reasons.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047395
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I'm not ragging on you Boco.

Pa. had and is still close to having a million hunters afield, this in a small area compared to what your thinking.

How long do you think a hundred dollar fox lasted once it got daylight back then?
The average farm is between 100-150 acres. Your their guest here, do you think they want to see fox sitting in a trap for several days?

Like I said above, you don't know what you don't know so no sense arguing with those who do.

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