Still Alive in 220.
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11/16/20 12:48 PM
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I was out with a friend on his trap line. He has access to mega acreage. Gotta love out west. 220 bucket set at his chicken coupe. 220 landed perfectly on the neck. Couldn't have been more perfect. This coon was still alive !!! I don't know how...
Anyone ever seen a coon struggling in a 220 ?? Especially one that has landed perfectly.
Just a weekend trapper...
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/16/20 03:54 PM
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I have a game cameras going on two different test cubbies. Testing trigger configurations. One a box, the other a bucket. Jaws are wired open, so trap will fire, but only 1/2" or so. Nobody been killed......yet.
Depending on the trigger configuration, the vast majority of the time, when the coon fires the trap, he has one leg already in (right below his chin) and often looks to me like the strike would be on his chest.....right behind front leg. If that was the case with your coon, probably could have pulled one leg out after trap fired, trap then slid forward to his neck.
Reason for my research on triggers, had a coon get deep into trap before it fired.....a Belisle 220. Trap suitcased him, but game camera recorded aftermath. Took better part of 1/2 hour. Didn't seem possible, but game camera recorded strike, so I saw it happen.
Best trigger pattern I've found to date is centered trigger spread in inverted "V" with spread at tips being 4 inches.....with blocking in the upper corners to prevent them from going over or around it. They don't like it......but if bait is good, they will eventually punch in. Test trap is a Duke 220.
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/16/20 07:54 PM
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I was out with a friend on his trap line. He has access to mega acreage. Gotta love out west. 220 bucket set at his chicken coupe. 220 landed perfectly on the neck. Couldn't have been more perfect. This coon was still alive !!! I don't know how...
Anyone ever seen a coon struggling in a 220 ?? Especially one that has landed perfectly. sounds like a non magnum trap with little clamping force. When using traps like that go for a double strike by adjusting the trigger configuration and or the attractor to let the animal further into the trap before it fires. Neck and thorax strike with an non magnum trap will kill them a lot quicker than a single strike to the neck.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/17/20 01:00 PM
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Several years ago, while trying different trigger configurations, I had a couple coon get far enough into the trap that they were caught at the hips and throat and were very much alive. At the time I assumed it was a week Sleepy Creek 220. It happened a couple times so I sold those traps and bought new ones.
Then I raising the traps 2 inches and found more neck-chest single strikes usually with one foot thru before the trap fired. At this point I was using an “L” configuration on an inverted trap. Eventually I got my traps up 3-4 inches, blocked the sides AND top in with grass, making a tunnel, and I was able to get a consistent one strike.
Since I was experimenting, I made my own trap stands out of 1-inch plastic pipe. On top was a plastic “T” piece glued on. It took a while to cut notches into the “T” but I managed. All in all, those trap stands cost less than 35 cents to make. A quick shot with grey or tan spray paint and they lasted till I sold my bodygrips.
Last edited by Teacher; 11/17/20 01:01 PM. Reason: Clarity
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/17/20 09:59 PM
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Otter will die quickly,almost instantly,when caught by a single strike to the neck,even in a little 120.
Last edited by Boco; 11/17/20 10:00 PM.
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/17/20 11:46 PM
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Otter will die quickly,almost instantly,when caught by a single strike to the neck,even in a little 120. thanks for sharing that. i always wondered what would happen in some of those dry mink runs if otter happened to hit it.
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/25/20 02:27 PM
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Trigger configuration has nothing to do with It. It's trigger TRAVEL before the trap FIRES that gives you those quick kills.
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Re: Still Alive in 220.
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11/25/20 05:36 PM
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Actually it is both. When trapping the beaver house under the ice and setting 330's side by side we move the trigger wires(twisted together as one unit) way over to one side.This allows bigger beaver to get farther into the trap among other things.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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