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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7052899
11/17/20 11:05 AM
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I learned a few things about animal behavior and scent from watching my dog. Anyone else?

Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7053210
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You bet, one reason to bring one with you.
I like the look of the sticka, theres no border collie in them?

Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7053543
11/17/20 08:50 PM
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You will never be the best trapper/fur harvester you can be without working with a dog on the line or in the hunt! ! ! PERIOD. If you are any type of observer, the dog (even an average one) will show you wildlife activities and actions that us humans have lost through our search to survive in the "concrete jungle". The dog shows have ruined many breeds' genetic instinct that was used to develop traits benefitting mankind. You have heard me say ---- I'm a big proponent of shelter dogs that have some hunting breed in their looks, especially terrier, lab, cur or hound.................. however,,,,, the smartest hunting dog I ever followed was a cross of shepherd, collie, elkhound and whatever else made it a wooly, medium coated and pointy nosed farm dog type. In the same breath I have had some recognized breed "giveaways" that were not worth euthanizing because of that "show blood" too close in the pedigree. Get a young dog 1-2 yrs. old if possible and skip the puppyhood so the dog is mature enough to understand your moods and (hopefully) smart enough to follow some directions. School can start a little earlier then..................... my take..... the mike

Re: Trap line dog [Re: Wife] #7053550
11/17/20 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wife
You will never be the best trapper/fur harvester you can be without working with a dog on the line or in the hunt! ! ! PERIOD. If you are any type of observer, the dog (even an average one) will show you wildlife activities and actions that us humans have lost through our search to survive in the "concrete jungle". The dog shows have ruined many breeds' genetic instinct that was used to develop traits benefitting mankind. You have heard me say ---- I'm a big proponent of shelter dogs that have some hunting breed in their looks, especially terrier, lab, cur or hound.................. however,,,,, the smartest hunting dog I ever followed was a cross of shepherd, collie, elkhound and whatever else made it a wooly, medium coated and pointy nosed farm dog type. In the same breath I have had some recognized breed "giveaways" that were not worth euthanizing because of that "show blood" too close in the pedigree. Get a young dog 1-2 yrs. old if possible and skip the puppyhood so the dog is mature enough to understand your moods and (hopefully) smart enough to follow some directions. School can start a little earlier then..................... my take..... the mike

Love this!


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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7053696
11/17/20 10:14 PM
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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7053881
11/18/20 06:30 AM
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There's plenty of Kemmer Mountain Curs working on trapline around the country . Versatile, gritty with brains , my old dog would work sign , drags and decoy.

Re: Trap line dog [Re: Von] #7054050
11/18/20 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Von
There's plenty of Kemmer Mountain Curs working on trapline around the country . Versatile, gritty with brains , my old dog would work sign , drags and decoy.

Your right Von!

I would say I'm probably first and foremost a terrier man but I have had 3 Kemmers. My Pee Jo was a great coyote dog and squirrel dog. A lot of fun! I have been thinking of talking with you about a pup. Message me here or on TH&H so we can connect by phone.

Re: Trap line dog [Re: Tactical.20] #7054054
11/18/20 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tactical.20
You bet, one reason to bring one with you.
I like the look of the sticka, theres no border collie in them?

Check my post above. Mine are Airedale-Irish-Jack Russell. However, Frank has/is making several different crosses.

Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7054415
11/18/20 03:51 PM
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I don't think that the breed matters as much as the time spent with a dog. I would recommend a German Shepard as that is what I have and he will do anything to please me. The only thing that gets him riled up are vultures. he hates them and will chase after them till they are past his territory no matter how high they fly. Other than that he is at my side all the time unless I send him off. But all of that is more about the time I spend with him than the breed I think. I used to have Irish setters and German short and wire hair and they are not that hard to train either if one puts the time in.

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Re: Trap line dog [Re: John Houben] #7055113
11/19/20 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by John Houben
Originally Posted by Tactical.20
You bet, one reason to bring one with you.
I like the look of the sticka, theres no border collie in them?

Check my post above. Mine are Airedale-Irish-Jack Russell. However, Frank has/is making several different crosses.

Yup i read all the post

Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7055471
11/19/20 10:56 AM
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My black lab took to finding finding post set locations and my drag catches quickly he is not a call dog, I was quoted saying any dog could become a trap line dog once and have to recall that statement, breeds known for aggression I would avoid, I had one that was a great dog until apx 20 called in yotes then she became TOO aggressive and she got in trouble in a group, is it training issue? I don't have enough experience in training for this to determine that, one of the best trappers I know says good trapline dogs a far and few between I think with the right temperament and good training anything is possible my lab is a natural retriever "lean mac bloodline" and avoids gland lures and most baits himself knowing they catch yotes, he has never been in my sets, make sure you carry cable cutters snares are tough to train avoidance techniques

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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7055542
11/19/20 11:54 AM
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Tactical 20,

Mine are terrier for all intents and purpose. There is a bit of Dorn way back in them so maybe a bit of Border Collie somewhere but long diluted. Frank is now crossing with a breed of cattle dog out of Idaho which I think is Airedale/Border Collie. They do have a name but I can't remember it. So, if one were to get pups from him now I would say there would be more of a collie influence.

To ND TM or anyone who might think I am putting down a particular breed of dog: I wouldn't want to offend anyone's choice of dog. It's like women, guns and trucks . . . to each their own. Things like are you working in hot TX in the summer or only cold months up north can influence what is the ideal dog for someone. So there is not the perfect dog for everyone or for everywhere.

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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7055587
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My old Dorn dog from ogormans

Re: Trap line dog [Re: Tactical.20] #7055699
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Tactical 20 your Dorn dog looks like a Dorn dog my friend S.L. had back in the 1990's. Jake was a Walker/Airedale looking dog and was a coyote trolling machine.

Re: Trap line dog [Re: Marten Ted] #7055711
11/19/20 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marten Ted
Finds coyotes and cats on drags without fail,
retrieves birds, has even dug a badger out of a hole for me. you name it she really is an all purpose dog.


sounds just like my first Brittany when I lived in Idaho. Belle would out retrieve labs in the Snake River.........and oooooh would their owners be po'd.


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Re: Trap line dog [Re: ecam] #7056590
11/20/20 11:20 AM
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coalbank and John Houben, sent you both a PM for the breeders contact information. Thanks!!


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