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coyote cycle #7054154
11/18/20 12:24 PM
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Not their heat cycle, but travelling. I have talked with Rick Olson on here about this but want to see what other see also. I have 19 footholds out now all on tracks that were within 3 days of me setting. Well, that was sunday and nothing has came back yet. We are figuring out in our neck there is about 14 days that can be before they swing back. Do people that are putting coyotes in the back daily, have that many more to work with, or are they on a smaller loop?

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Depends on your methods.
Big baits will draw canines from a long ways and keep them in the area for quite a while.
Other than that its likely hit and miss unless you have a long line out with many traps(costs a lot to run like that and takes a lot of time).Then you will have some each run.


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Re: coyote cycle [Re: shortliner16] #7054195
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Guys that are putting up numbers of coyotes aren’t doing it with 19 sets out. If you want to be taking home a couple coyotes every day you should probably double or triple your line. In some areas the home range is smaller but you need to find the locations where several coyotes ranges overlap.


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I understand with 19 i wont expect everyday, before deer season here i did have around 40 out and was happy with my return.

Re: coyote cycle [Re: shortliner16] #7054243
11/18/20 01:51 PM
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Key to catching a lot of coyotes is to hit as many populations as you can. Gotta find new coyotes to foil the route runners.

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Originally Posted by Bob
Guys that are putting up numbers of coyotes aren’t doing it with 19 sets out. If you want to be taking home a couple coyotes every day you should probably double or triple your line. In some areas the home range is smaller but you need to find the locations where several coyotes ranges overlap.

This

Re: coyote cycle [Re: shortliner16] #7054302
11/18/20 02:34 PM
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When testing lure formulations i will have action on test sets about 80% of the time within 3 days. 95% within 5 days if on decent location. Trapping is much different.

Re: coyote cycle [Re: shortliner16] #7054524
11/18/20 06:35 PM
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Population can make a huge difference in your catch rate. I usually figure about 10-14 days for them to make a circuit. With fewer yotes to go after, you may find yourself chasing the same dog on different places. Everyone will tell you that you will need lots of sets to catch more coyotes but if you don't have to dogs to go after then I would suggest quality sets vs quantity. Rick knows his stuff and has helped me out quite a bit this year too. Keep good notes and don't be afraid to go for a long walk after a light snow. It can be quite humbling...


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Imo it's about high percentage locations high percentage sets . Unless you dealing with high populations .
Cover more ground pick your spots ( cover more ground)
In my country there is imo a family group 5 -7 coyote to a town ship. Cover lots of ground and only set a place that every coyote coming through will visit or stop. And do that over and over nothing more nothing less imo.
This is a low population coyotes ,,, high population wolf numbers area's

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Originally Posted by shortliner16
I understand with 19 i wont expect everyday, before deer season here i did have around 40 out and was happy with my return.


Around here, deer season will throw coyotes regular travel cycles off. They are being bumped around and have plenty of gut piles to feed on.

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Originally Posted by shortliner16
I understand with 19 i wont expect everyday, before deer season here i did have around 40 out and was happy with my return.

10 percent is what is expected of total traps that is a good number to shoot for after the first couple of checks


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I'm always intrigued by this question.
Back in Ohio the yotes were on a 14-18 day cycle on one of the farms I was able to trap.
I am enjoying reading all the responses


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Re: coyote cycle [Re: red mt] #7054862
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Originally Posted by red mt
Originally Posted by shortliner16
I understand with 19 i wont expect everyday, before deer season here i did have around 40 out and was happy with my return.

10 percent is what is expected of total traps that is a good number to shoot for after the first couple of checks

Red is that on a 24 hour check. Ten percent on a daily check seems awfully good

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The sign you see may be In the middle part of their territory. Wont see as much action there as on the perimeter. (What i see in my area)


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Re: coyote cycle [Re: shortliner16] #7054916
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All depends on how many coyotes you have as to how many you’ll catch. I don’t have “long lines” I just trap properties. I’ll spend 2-3 weeks at one then pull and move to another. When I set a property I’ll use every trap I have and cover as much of the area as possible. I’m setting for any and all critters. The landowners already have a good idea of what’s in the area and I listen to what they have to say. Last year after I pulled I was asked if I’d come back and make a few sets in front of a couple of his cameras so he could watch and check for me. Ended up with another coyote and fox after a week, lol.
The main place I trap is 2500ac. We just got our first predators on camera this week...a cat and coyote. First ones we’ve seen since I pulled in June. Our critters are about like what the OP stated...anywhere from a week to two weeks on their rounds. As it gets cooler and food gets scarce in other areas, they’ll start showing up more frequently. Plenty of quail, rabbits, turkeys, and deer there.

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No shortliner16 it is not and its unneeded and there no way we could coyotes are way spread out and game is not condensed out here and then you have the weather aspect to it ,plain and simple unsafe to be out on the roads in bad weather also imo , and it only happens once a year on the line here weather usually is the one reasons also , but having sets in the ground ahead of that in key locations . Or a guy I learned a few things from told me high percentage location,and high percentage sets catch a bunch of coyotes fast if the numbers are there.
I guess is what I am saying the coyote or coyotes that are at place x of his territory ,moving through there territory have a spot or places they lay up ,hunt, howl at the neighbors or whatever. That is another location if you have access to it ,,,if not we have to wait.
Knowing how coyote moves through your trapping permission is key imo getting permission in those key area's are very important not a deal breaker we just wait longer is all.
So we can either go to them or wait till they come to us imo
Then there are dispersal coyotes going through permission, Hunting season tend to do that here, on those natural coyote route's they move through every year. Key places to have permission on . Imo


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Shortliner16 ,,,10 percent is only 1 coyote or whatever per 10 traps as you know. There are bunch of guys that do that well all over the country and when there not pulling and moving to better ground.


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I would like to premise this by saying the internet has sure informed all of us on tools and techniques to harvest animals more efficiently--- mind numbing, but has missed a lot of the basic hands on biology that us old guys were exposed to in the 60's and 70's............................ The average fur trapper and even many ADC trappers are not very good at evaluating HABITAT. They are great at --- finding sign, setting a trap/snare, calling/hunting/shooting (thanks to all the information on this tube) and collecting fur/animals. But when it comes to estimating the distances and the quality of a coyote's environment, they fall short. And to be honest why should they care about litters/natal areas, prey species, diseases, spring/summer weather, water availability, droughts, floods, fires, logging, vegetation height, etc.365 days/year? If they (trappers) want to hit the dirt, spend the time, scout for sign when they are in the area or close to a season opener, so be it. If folks (so called pro's) want to have a certain number of coyotes caught every day, they are governed by finding access to high populations, hitting the dirt, and setting lots of traps daily (hard work). Several posts above hit on the facts that human activity can alter any "routine" (and I use that term loosely) an individual coyote or coyotes may have. Habitat (NOT JUST COVER) will govern animal movement and occupancy no matter the species. Coyotes need Food, Cover and Water = HABITAT, just like all mammals and if you supply a gut pile, bait station, a road kill, planted CRP, built a pond etc. you have enhanced the Food, Cover and Water categories and likely caused some alteration of their movement through their "home range". Society and communication among coyotes will affect movements too (different amounts at different times of the year). With all the tracking (hounds), hunting/calling, trapping, listening, and looking (at mine and others game cams) I have done, in my experience (caught my 1st one in '71) I can't say that the coyotes I have observed have a certain "time cycle" or route that they follow in human terms. Don't misinterpret this as we all know they use trails and saddles and field roads etc. but only at their convenience (not at Tuesday noon or Happy Hour on Friday evening) LOL. Their actions were governed by the Food, Cover, and the Water they needed to get through the day (Odon Corr touches on this). The more you learn about your local coyote Habitat.......... the what, where, why and how those coyotes USE that Habitat 24-7 365,, the better those 19 traps will produce................... my take........... the mike

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Just a funny anecdote about the route runners...my first success at catching coyotes i caught a coyote on the same set every Tuesday for a month. Never caught coyotes on another day and there are multiple sets besides this road and sets on crossing trails nearby.

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Wife makes a good point. Knowing how coyotes like to use an area is very important. It saves a lot of time and effort if you can drive through an area and pick out the terrain the coyote is going to use rather than searching for tracks and scat. Coyotes will always choose the easiest path that gets them where they need to be.


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