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Re: jfk assassination [Re: ] #7059291
11/22/20 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ND FTA
Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the desert in unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Still got the shovel...... grin


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: Cragar] #7059355
11/22/20 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cragar
Originally Posted by ND FTA
Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the desert in unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Still got the shovel...... grin


Y’all beat me too it!

Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059371
11/22/20 10:47 PM
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That shot could have been made easy the part I find hard to believe is Ruby got by all the security they had surrounding Oswald almost like he was let in to do the job.

Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059379
11/22/20 10:53 PM
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my personal opinion was that lbj and the deep state whacked him.......kennedy was opposed to further us involvement in Vietnam........,,,,,,ibj and the deep state had reasons for wanting it......it would be a strategic victory for the united states to have a strong military prescence in southeast asia,,, and lbj had stocks in companies that had defense contracts.


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059380
11/22/20 10:56 PM
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Tom O’Neal’s book “chaos” has some super interesting stuff on jack ruby.

Like most things, there is a lot more too the story we probably will never know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYBOboAcAo


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: danvee] #7059392
11/22/20 11:08 PM
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Ruby had a nightclub that a lot of police & mob guys used to frequent. The police knew him that's how he got into basement with reporters


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059426
11/22/20 11:37 PM
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It can’t be just a coincidence the brainchild behind the CIA’s mind control program(mkultra) Jolly west.

Becomes jack Ruby’s court appointed psychiatrist.

Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059432
11/22/20 11:40 PM
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Had to post this , IMO , one of the best JFK movie clips EVER. Levon Helm , totally nailed this scene. RIP , Levon , a great musician


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059439
11/22/20 11:43 PM
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I remember the day it happened. Watched all the hoopla on TV. I am pretty sure there is way more to it than was ever released. Oswald was the shooter. But who paid him or Ruby will probably never be known. I am pretty sure somebody has way more power than our government. Perhaps there is a mafia running this country.


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059488
11/23/20 01:14 AM
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Kennedy was bucking convention enough that there were several potential motives. Besides the ones already mentioned, I've read that he was planning to break up the Federal Reserve corporation too.

The moral of the Kennedy story, like Epstien and plenty others, is that if you're powerful enough you don't actually have to fool people to get away with murder. Sometimes it's like they hardly try.


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059499
11/23/20 01:34 AM
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My take. Oswald a paid mechanic. Shop owner LBJ.

Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059686
11/23/20 11:07 AM
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Ruby was also a dying man at the time


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059760
11/23/20 12:51 PM
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Actually, right after the whole “Happy Birthday Mr. President” thing, Jackie began plotting his demise. An act of vengeance included having an affair with the top agent of the President’s detail. This agent went and hired Oswald to assassinate the President. When it went down and the agent realized what an awful marksman Oswald was he implemented the insurance plan by detonating the powder charge in the President’s ear piece he had given him, which is the last thing seen on camera.


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059853
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Watch Dark Legacy. I cant confirm the documentary, But it makes some sense- you need to pay attention and not get interrupted to absorb the content - it is Interesting, even if you don't believe it all ,

ps Dark Legacy 2 deals with how they got rid of the youngest Kennedy- just to stop any future pay backs

Be Kind Too Others !

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Re: jfk assassination [Re: danny clifton] #7059868
11/23/20 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I think the Mafia did it. His dad was dead, a gangster from way back in prohibition. Running the Irish gangs in Boston. Did a lot of business with the Sicilian and Jewish gangs. It was Sicilian mafia in Chicago that got him the votes needed to win IL and those electoral votes gave him the presidency.

So dad dies and he makes Bobby attorney general. First thing Bobby does is go after the Sicilian's. With dad dead they no longer have any influence over the Kennedy boys.

at least that is my GUESS

I think it's a pretty good guess. That's what I've always thought too.

It's interesting to ask people who were alive back then if they remember what they were doing when they first heard the news about JFK getting shot. Most do. I was spearing suckers through the ice at a local park.


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: Computer Hater] #7059928
11/23/20 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Computer Hater
Today is the anniversary not tomorrow.

Sure seems possible that there was more to it. Were the Clintons around then?
.....Hilda beast was born the day before and she has never looked back lol
grin

Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7059945
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"I KILLED JFK" with James Files. It is his confession from prison. He tells all. He tells names, places, way too many details to not be true. An FBI agent confirms most of files story. Files talks in a way that he is talking from memory. It all fits


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: patrapperbuster] #7059967
11/23/20 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
"I KILLED JFK" with James Files. It is his confession from prison. He tells all. He tells names, places, way too many details to not be true. An FBI agent confirms most of files story. Files talks in a way that he is talking from memory. It all fits


Maybe. But it's fairly easy to fabricate a story with details if you take time to study the subject matter. Historically accurate fiction is everywhere. The first thing that makes me doubt Files is the fact that he lived to confess. Seems like an important end to leave loose in prison with nothing to lose.


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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: jfk assassination [Re: KenaiKid] #7059982
11/23/20 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
"I KILLED JFK" with James Files. It is his confession from prison. He tells all. He tells names, places, way too many details to not be true. An FBI agent confirms most of files story. Files talks in a way that he is talking from memory. It all fits


Maybe. But it's fairly easy to fabricate a story with details if you take time to study the subject matter. Historically accurate fiction is everywhere. The first thing that makes me doubt Files is the fact that he lived to confess. Seems like an important end to leave loose in prison with nothing to lose.


Getting in his fifteen minutes of fame when it doesn’t matter. lol


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Re: jfk assassination [Re: foxkidd44] #7060000
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The government said Oswald did it. Since we all know the government is so honest we definitely have to believe the government.

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