What's with the signing for "traceability" when selling to Groeny?

Most retail outlets wont handle articles that are not C+T.
Been like that for quite a while now industry wide.Not just the fur industry but other renewables also.Fish,Wood, etc.

If you signed it, were you lying?

No body here would lie or cheat.

Sounds like what it took to vote in Detroit

Tell them it is for a democrat. You will be fine.

I never sold anything to him. I saw it in his live feed on YouTube when he was in Iowa.

C+T?

Certifide and Traceable. Marketing nonesense that( apparently) requires most trappers to sign a form that says a Trapper does all of the following things (a laundry list ) that most trappers don't or can't do or don't want to do.

You can call it nonsense but it is demanded by todays concientious consumer.

I did. The Consumer wants me to lie? Maybe he does.

You cant lie-you will be held to account-that is why its traceable.
Something cant be certified if it cannot be traced for verification.

Traceable is where it comes from. Certification is me lying about myself. Or is the fur being traced to liars? or maybe us non-liars just won't be able to sell fur cheap to Groeny or his agent in Fairbanks?

No they can trace the product back to the producer then if there is an issue-they can do a blind audit of your trapline operation.If you dont pass muster you wont be allowed to sell anymore or will have to sell outside the C+T same when you are caught lying on your declaration(like a customs declaration you may get away with it once or twice).That is where it is slowly going-look at other industries that are further along.

Don't you mean what the conscientious bunny hugger demands. They have been feeding the retailers a line of crap to make them believe that is the case. Tell me how a person can tell if the fur was trapped, shot, run down with dogs, or picked up off the highway. The consumer can't, the retailer can't, and the manufacture can't. Just a bunch of smoke and mirrors a feel good thing.

Isn't the bulk of certification have to do with training and being humane?

Boco - so you’re saying that if an inspector goes to Groenwald’s warehouse in Illinois and Groenewald has 6,500 coyotes in that warehouse and the inspector randomly pulls one pelt out of that pile of coyotes, that Groenwald can tell the inspector who he bought that coyote from??

If that is what you are saying, I’m throwing the BS flag. In fact, I will throw 2 flags. Just saying it isn’t possible.

Why do I have to train my competition to be one of Groeny's Certified Trappers? Does Groeny help and train new furbuyers?

X2 at least. The Auction house may have everything bar coded and know where it came from, but I can assure you no American Fur Buyer does.

A blind audit of my trapline operation? Can I get more than one? I could use the help carrying stuff.

Wissmiss is spot on, And I'll throw the third flag on that bs. About the only way that traceability works is MAYBE on a registered trapline, certainly not in the U.S.A.