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Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree #7062152
11/25/20 08:41 AM
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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062155
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And before the but crowd jumps in let me point out that the ATF is an unelected agency that has independent authority to act granted to them by both the legislative and executive branches.

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062162
11/25/20 08:56 AM
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I just can't believe that the government has gotten so big and out of control. Instant felons with the swipe of a pen. Outrageous!

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062181
11/25/20 09:10 AM
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Thanks for posting Warrior.


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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062209
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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062256
11/25/20 10:06 AM
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That may be nothing compared to what may be coming soon. Yes, it is bad and the atf as a routine does things that are very bad.

I try to live a stress free life but do not think that will be possible to do now due to my awareness of what is coming, I expect it to start right after the inauguration.. Still hoping for a miracle, Penn legislature meets today on the fraud issue.

Last edited by Marty; 11/25/20 10:14 AM.

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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062266
11/25/20 10:19 AM
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Thank you for posting this warrior. I am thinking the alphabets will have a lot more things like this to shove down our throats in the coming years. mad
If a thing needs shoved, I like to be the one doing the shoving.

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062298
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like the bump stocks that were made illegal??

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062311
11/25/20 10:59 AM
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So is it official? Video wouldn't play for me

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062321
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And so it starts.

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062327
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If you didn't see this coming you have been walking around with one eye closed and a patch over the other. Regardless, I think the courts should step in and say "you can't do that w/o providing a process that allows owners to meet newly established requirements over a specified timeframe."

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062367
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Cant you just take the brace off the pistol and be legal? Is it illegal to own the brace or just have it attached to the pistol?

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: TurkeyWrangler] #7062381
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Originally Posted by TurkeyWrangler
Cant you just take the brace off the pistol and be legal? Is it illegal to own the brace or just have it attached to the pistol?



Attaching it to the pistol they claim makes an sbr.
Just taking it off would seem to make it ok BUT then you run into constructive intent bs laws. Basically just having the parts shos you intend to make the prohibited item.

The simple 200$ solution to send in a form one to make an Sbr get in engraved and it's a non issue. Except that makes my league public land deer hunting hand gun an illegal for public land deer rifle in Indiana.

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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: EdP] #7062486
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Originally Posted by EdP
If you didn't see this coming you have been walking around with one eye closed and a patch over the other. Regardless, I think the courts should step in and say "you can't do that w/o providing a process that allows owners to meet newly established requirements over a specified timeframe."


Courts should say, you can't do that Period!

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062528
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by EdP
If you didn't see this coming you have been walking around with one eye closed and a patch over the other. Regardless, I think the courts should step in and say "you can't do that w/o providing a process that allows owners to meet newly established requirements over a specified timeframe."


Courts should say, you can't do that Period!

2nd amendment says no one should tell us what we can and can't do. Problem is we have let them get away with it for so long they just keep adding to the infringements and don't expect repercussions. mad

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: EdP] #7062583
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Originally Posted by EdP
If you didn't see this coming you have been walking around with one eye closed and a patch over the other. Regardless, I think the courts should step in and say "you can't do that w/o providing a process that allows owners to meet newly established requirements over a specified timeframe."




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As long as they give us time to comply they can do whatever they want I guess? I believe the statement should stop with the court stepping in and saying " you can't do that." It's just frustrating knowing how many people are running around out there not even knowing that they are or will be in violation, then you have people saying that sb tactical owes everybody something. No, this is the government causing peril to citizens at its own accord.

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: warrior] #7062590
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How can this be? Isn't Trump still president?


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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: danny clifton] #7062604
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
How can this be? Isn't Trump still president?



Unelected bureaucrats trying to score brownie points with their new boss it looks like to me...

Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: danny clifton] #7062654
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Danny, a wiser older fella told me...
Sometimes, as an employer, you have to step in and take over to get the guy going in the right direction, sometimes you gotta step in and do it yourself.


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Re: Instant Felons by bureaucratic decree [Re: danvee] #7062656
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Originally Posted by danvee
like the bump stocks that were made illegal??



Now would be a good time for Trump to issue another executive order reversing his first one in regards to bump stocks.

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