Orange - Canary Marten ?
#7056716
11/20/20 02:18 PM
11/20/20 02:18 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790 MT
Slick Pan
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790
MT
|
A few years ago my son and I went with a fur buyer friend to a Seattle Fur Harvesters auction.My son admired the orange Marten skins.I assume these Marten were lotted together for color.Are there certain sections of Alaska that have this color or are they random caught?There were not many lots compared to the brown colors so I think they are fairly scarce?Do they come from other regions of the US,Canada also?
Last edited by Slick Pan; 11/20/20 02:29 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7056771
11/20/20 04:08 PM
11/20/20 04:08 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946
james bay frontierOnt.
|
Only caught 3 true canary marten in my life out of thousands of marten.Others have caught some also.Its a genetic mutation like a silver fox.Dont know if they are more prevalent in any one locale.Marten are fairly genetically homogenous throughout their entire range because of their habit of dispersing extremely long distances despite their small size.Lynx are the same in this respect. Therese Demers the top marten grader for both FHA and NAFA told us that there are about 30 skins come in every year out of the tens of thousands of marten overall. They are lotted together separately and very few in that lot of canaries are the same colour.Some are paler and some are orangy but never two identical. I made a hat out of one I caught once. Our fur pick up guy Leon Lecours from Hearst had a full canary marten hat.
Last edited by Boco; 11/20/20 04:19 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7056876
11/20/20 05:39 PM
11/20/20 05:39 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670 Armpit, ak
Dirt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670
Armpit, ak
|
Unfortunately orange is common here
Who is John Galt?
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7057142
11/20/20 09:12 PM
11/20/20 09:12 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790 MT
Slick Pan
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790
MT
|
Boco-thanks for the reply.That tells me that they do come from others places other than Alaska.
DIRT:Unfortunately orange is common here.
Why do you say Unfortunately ? The canary bring a premium price.I am not talking partial orange with brown but full on orange
I don't remember how many lots of ten that were at the auction,But it was like 6 max.I do know they were all orange. No other colors other than some white on the skins.
Last edited by Slick Pan; 11/20/20 09:14 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7057368
11/21/20 12:10 AM
11/21/20 12:10 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946
james bay frontierOnt.
|
The canary marten have brought some high prices,when more than one buyer wanted them for some specialty market.But this is not the norm for them because they cannot be matched with each other very well. The best market by far for canary marten is the taxi market.That is where I sold mine,except the one in the hat because it had been partially cannibalized by another marten.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7061366
11/24/20 04:58 PM
11/24/20 04:58 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670 Armpit, ak
Dirt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670
Armpit, ak
|
Boco-thanks for the reply.That tells me that they do come from others places other than Alaska.
DIRT:Unfortunately orange is common here.
Why do you say Unfortunately ? The canary bring a premium price.I am not talking partial orange with brown but full on orange
I don't remember how many lots of ten that were at the auction,But it was like 6 max.I do know they were all orange. No other colors other than some white on the skins. Orange Extra Pales: The guard hairs vary from light brown in the midline to Orange on the flanks. The yellowish orange band in the underfur is wider and lighter than it is in Pale pelts. The pelt has an overall orange appearance.They pay the least normally and the last few years they have not been selling either. Hope I answered your question.
Who is John Galt?
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7061705
11/24/20 09:50 PM
11/24/20 09:50 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790 MT
Slick Pan
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,790
MT
|
Dirt-Do the martin you are mentioning look like the ones in the pictures above.From your description I think they may be different? The canary martin I am referring to is in the pictures above?I am trying to find out if the canary is found in certain places or random caught as the posters from Canada have said.
Last edited by Slick Pan; 11/24/20 09:51 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7061741
11/24/20 10:14 PM
11/24/20 10:14 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670 Armpit, ak
Dirt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670
Armpit, ak
|
They look like waggler's bottom picture. They have a dorsel stripe. Canaries are more yellowish orange like a canary. Yes they are different.
Who is John Galt?
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7061789
11/24/20 11:01 PM
11/24/20 11:01 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,946
james bay frontierOnt.
|
Some years pl and xp marten(not canary) bring a high price.Depends on fashon dictates.Some years the brown and lt browns bring higher prices.Historically the dk-xd have brought the premium prices-but not always. The worst marten price wise is what they call the red hips.They are grey from the head down to the shoulders-darker in the middle and distinct red in the hips. They do not take dye uniformly thus the poor price.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7062353
11/25/20 11:52 AM
11/25/20 11:52 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670 Armpit, ak
Dirt
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,670
Armpit, ak
|
Dirt-I understand what you are talking about now.Thank you for helping me understand.Do you ever catch ones like in picture #2.The ones you catch certainly are very close to the color except the brown. I catch some yellow marten.
Who is John Galt?
|
|
|
Re: Orange - Canary Marten ?
[Re: Slick Pan]
#7062730
11/25/20 06:50 PM
11/25/20 06:50 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,535 Orergon
alaska viking
"Made it two years not being censored"
|
"Made it two years not being censored"
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,535
Orergon
|
A guy I know caught 3 one season, in this general area. All 3 were large males. I bought one from him for a lifesize. While the taxi work is only "ok", the animal itself is pretty cool.
Last edited by alaska viking; 11/25/20 06:50 PM.
Just doing what I want now.
|
|
|
|
|