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Pre drill disposables? #7061490
11/24/20 07:00 PM
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Trying to save time when setting & thinking of drilling a pilot hole for Wolf Fangs. 3/4Ē spade bit to loosen the ground, hard clay typically. A spade would leave most or the dirt in the hole. I can imagine this would affect the holding power of the fangs. I assume some of you may do this. Any problems?

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7061567
11/24/20 08:12 PM
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Get a bigger hammer ! Some of my ground is soft enough to push one in the ground without much hammer work . Just a few mile away a 2# hammer just wonít do it, thatís when I go to a 6# splitting maul . Makes all the difference!

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7061581
11/24/20 08:26 PM
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I use ther old style brace bit. I cut the top part off and put it in my drill. Works great but I don't have clay soil


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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7061673
11/24/20 09:33 PM
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I used to use an old stake driver to make a hole then pound in my super stakes.
Now I just wait until after a good rain and set traps, lol. We donít have the freeze thaw effect...we have the clay turns to cement once it dries out effect. Never use dry clay to cover traps either. Once it gets wet and drys back out youíll need a hammer and chisel to get your traps out and forget the chain/cable until a really good rain.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7062343
11/25/20 11:35 AM
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I use an old 3/8 inch wood hand auger bit I welded to a 3/8 inch rod.
Not really to save time for but more so for me to save the wolf fang from all the rocks I can't see below ground.
Nothing I hate more other than seeing yote steps an inch from my trap is getting about 10 inches down and hitting a rock & having to start over.


Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere.
Or so I've been told.
Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: jnsff69] #7062963
11/25/20 09:18 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Yup, could get a heavier hammer but last year I bent way too many fangs. Frozen ground and dry clay so trying to find some ďreliefĒ. I trialed some in back yard and it seemed to work good without reducing holding power.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7064046
11/26/20 07:16 PM
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I use a piece of 3/8 rebar with a pointed end. It gives enough of a guide hole and the hole is still small enough for the anchor to hold. My rebar bit is a few inches shorter than my cable stake so I get the wolf fang into a few inches of fresh dirt.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7064048
11/26/20 07:19 PM
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Re my previous post. I use the same 1/2 inch drill to drill the rebar bit in as I do for my dirt hole auger. The rebar bit takes up almost no room in my trapping bucket.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7069114
11/30/20 11:09 PM
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Sometimes out here the only way I can get one in is to drill a hole. Iíve never had one come out.


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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7069488
12/01/20 11:29 AM
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Battery life or tool life, switched to Laser Mag 40v my issue I gotta make the bits haven't seen the custom builders jump on ice augar bits yet

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7072546
12/03/20 08:50 PM
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I took a chunk of 3/8 rebar and forged a flat spear-point. Hammer it in a little, give it a few turns. If you want, weld on a T handle. No drill, no fuss, no muss.


My Gal's name is Ma Deuce.

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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7072570
12/03/20 08:58 PM
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A few years I carried a small Honda generator and brought a corded drill. 50ft extension cord let me get anywhere I needed. I didnít even take the generator out of the truck and never had an issue with smell from exhaust. Just put it on the tailgate.


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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7073606
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I once used a large power inverter on my truck and plugged in a corded hammer drill. The power inverter ran the drill marginally and the power inverter would auto shut off due to insufficient power if I really forced the drill. A generator would have probably been much easier, but I though a permanent inverter would be easier. The inverter was also hard on my vehicle's battery and I even bought an oversize amperage battery then what my truck called for.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7073620
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Switch from wolf fangs to super stakes and it becomes much easier to get them in. Hard frost I still pre drill a .5 inch hole 10 inches down.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Ringbill5196] #7074598
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Super stakes w/chain. Make a short chain with binder hooks so you can pull them out with an ATV or truck.


My Gal's name is Ma Deuce.

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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7094978
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In Maine a lot of our ground isnt soil its rock, slate, shale, ledge etc and you will turn your anchor drivers and 3/8 rebar stakes into a pretzel not to mention your earth anchors. A lot of guys will use a stone masonery drill bit to pre drill holes.

Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Thumbian] #7095126
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See if you can get a hold of some railroad splice plates. 8x8 with 4 spike holes. They are about 6 lbs each. They make good drags. When you get close and the critter jumps you get a clanking sound. Easy to locate. Hook 3 plates for a yote? It's even better if you can pre-position them. Now that the RR is going to the 1/4 mi long rail they are a dime a dozen if not free.

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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Mainelogger] #7095148
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Originally Posted by Mainelogger
In Maine a lot of our ground isnt soil its rock, slate, shale, ledge etc and you will turn your anchor drivers and 3/8 rebar stakes into a pretzel not to mention your earth anchors. A lot of guys will use a stone masonery drill bit to pre drill holes.


Same problem here. Most of our ground is very rocky, some is literally solid rock. Many guys use drags because in some places itís impossible to drive a stake. Something Iíve considered going is in locations that are productive and have large boulders or exposed bedrock is using a hammer drill to drill into the rock and stick a red head bolt in the rock, and actually bolt the chain to the Boulder. Could be used year after year. Seasons end just unbolt the chain, come back next season and bolt it back on


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Re: Pre drill disposables? [Re: Bob] #7095174
12/18/20 08:36 AM
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Red Heads aren't cheap, but if the location is productive, go for it. PS, I have a T82 Hilti cordless hammer-drill for rent.


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