Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: Marty]
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A re-do of the election using only paper ballots that have signature/citizenship verification seems like the only way to address the problems.
Simple, logical and correct approach to the situation. We all know the libs have been cheating in elections for a while now, no one with any brains doubts that. This election they went all out, using the china created pandemic to their advantage just as they used it to destroy the economy as best they could. They allowed their cities to be burned. looted and taken over hoping to influence the election. They had time to put a major effort into fraudulent votes.
The election cannot be allowed to stand and I am behind first trying to use the system to overturn it and then whatever it takes to overturn it.
God Bless the USA and keep Trump safe. He is our last hope. Thank God he is standing up for America. Thank you, Mr. President! If there was a redo of the election, using traceable and verifiable.paper.ballots with ID required, and Joe Biden won that election, would you accept him as your president?
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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12/03/20 09:57 AM
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The truth, lies and reality are actually pretty easy to see.
The socialism cult and the Trump cult have caused most to abandon critical thinking--assuming most ever did it. I'm assuming a lot.
Give us some examples. Don't hide behind, "I already posted what I think." If that be the case, it will be easy to go and copy and paste your opinions and truths. Conversations always have more depth and honesty when facts are involved. Aren't you the guy that just sent me a PM that was a cut and paste of one of your prior posts? I'm headed to Court. If this thread is still up, I'll deal with you when I get out.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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12/03/20 09:58 AM
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The truth, lies and reality are actually pretty easy to see.
The socialism cult and the Trump cult have caused most to abandon critical thinking--assuming most ever did it. I'm assuming a lot.
Give us some examples. Don't hide behind, "I already posted what I think." If that be the case, it will be easy to go and copy and paste your opinions and truths. Conversations always have more depth and honesty when facts are involved. There is no chalk on the chalkboard so it isn’t a chalkboard.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: loosegoose]
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12/03/20 10:00 AM
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A re-do of the election using only paper ballots that have signature/citizenship verification seems like the only way to address the problems.
Simple, logical and correct approach to the situation. We all know the libs have been cheating in elections for a while now, no one with any brains doubts that. This election they went all out, using the china created pandemic to their advantage just as they used it to destroy the economy as best they could. They allowed their cities to be burned. looted and taken over hoping to influence the election. They had time to put a major effort into fraudulent votes.
The election cannot be allowed to stand and I am behind first trying to use the system to overturn it and then whatever it takes to overturn it.
God Bless the USA and keep Trump safe. He is our last hope. Thank God he is standing up for America. Thank you, Mr. President! If there was a redo of the election, using traceable and verifiable.paper.ballots with ID required, and Joe Biden won that election, would you accept him as your president? Yea.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: loosegoose]
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12/03/20 10:00 AM
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If there was a redo of the election, using traceable and verifiable.paper.ballots with ID required, and Joe Biden won that election, would you accept him as your president?
Absolutely, BUT every single ballot must be legitimate. That's all we the people expect, the TRUTH. BUT, I strongly suspect should such an honest election occur it would mean the end of the democrat party as we know it.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/03/20 10:02 AM
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I accepted obummer and there was fraud in that election also but not on such a large scale as this election. This is the end game for all the chips, and I am for anything that keeps the republic alive.
E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: loosegoose]
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12/03/20 10:34 AM
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If there was a redo of the election, using traceable and verifiable.paper.ballots with ID required, and Joe Biden won that election, would you accept him as your president?
In my younger years we were told to fight communism at all costs. Hades will freeze over before I accept a communist as my representative.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/03/20 10:42 AM
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I am so sick of the lefts superior attitude that words cannot describe it, include 99% of news media in that.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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12/03/20 10:43 AM
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If this thread is still up, I'll deal with you when I get out. He will "deal" with me. Not, "Yes let's have a conversation about these numbers." Not, "I look forward to some honest dialogue about facts." Just, "I'll deal with you when I get out." This is the attitude of the left and those on the left who think their own intellect is superior. I will allow that you had a poor choice of words and look forward to addressing these numbers with you in an honest fashion. Public or PM. I will leave the choice to you. Wonder what deal with you means? Boco was hopeful that they would put me in an isolation camp. Maybe we will be in the same camp? My "crime" was that I am suspicious of the vaccine. Funny how the left forgets. They said the same thing about the swine flu vaccine, its safe and effective, yet thousands had severe side effects they are still living with today.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/03/20 11:00 AM
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What the heck, I have a few minutes before Court starts. Here bowhunter 27295's cut and pasted PM to me. With some short responses.
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It would be nice to have an honest dialogue with someone on the other side of the political aisle I am a registered republican. I would register libertarian but I like voting in the republican primaries. For the one millionth time, I did not support Biden/Harris and did not vote for Biden/Harris. I'll take the 2A challenge against anyone and I wanted Trump to win for that reason. I would just prefer that the Republicans stop embarrassing themselves.
These are hard facts and not opinions. Tell me what you think. Look them up if you don't believe me. See below.
So let's get some perspective here.
Everyone remembers how much enthusiasm the former person who occupied the presidents office generated. Admittedly and truthfully he had massive crowds and chanting throngs of people. You all remember, "yes we can". Songs were made about his last name. You all remember the excitement he generated and how little excitement Mitt Romney generated. Kind of looks familiar doesn't it? In 2012 he received 62,615,406 votes. That was 3,473,402 more votes than Romney received. Enthusiasm and excitement is not admissible evidence in Court. Evidence (in fact, very specific evidence) is how you prove fraud.
Now let's talk about the 2020 vote.
Biden had a lack luster following, AT BEST, and had dozens turn out to his events. Trump had literally 10s of thousands show up for each one of his events. Flags on trucks, bumper stickers, window stickers, yard signs. An unbelievable following with as much or more enthusiasm for his reelection as the former occupant of the presidents office. I sincerely hope no one actually wants to argue about that fact. Enthusiasm is not admissible evidence in Court. Enthusiasm and the number of bumper stickers is not voting.
So here are some numbers.
In 2012, the former occupant of the presidents office received 62,615,406 votes. Remember the crowds that followed him. In 2020, Biden now has 81,001,401 votes according to what the media is telling us. That is nearly 19 MILLION more votes than the former occupant!!!! This is not admissible evidence of anything.
19 million!!!!!!!! That is the entire population of NC and MI combined. The #9 and #10 most populous states in the US.
!n 2012, Romney received 59,142,004 votes with his lack luster following. 1n 2020, Trump received 74,102,251 with his massive following. That is only 15 million more than Romney.
So based on what everyone saw in this nation and this campaign, I am supposed to believe that the enthusiasm I saw for Biden was equal to 19 MILLION more votes than the former occupant. Y'all do remember the columns and fainting women for him, right? This is not admissible evidence of anything. And see enthusiasm comment above.
I am also supposed to believe, Trump only generated 15 million more votes than Romney. Y'all did see the 100s of thousands of red MAGA hats across this nation, right? Wearing MAGA hats is not voting. Again, elections (and trials) are not decided by the number of hats people wear.
So the former occupant beat Romney by 3.4 million with his millions of supporters. And now we are told Biden beat Trump by 7 million with Trumps millions of supporters.
Who actually believes this? I am giving hard factual numbers and anyone should be able to see this election is THEFT. The American people have had their election stolen from them. Then we need to prove it--with actual admissible evidence of fraud.
I get it. Y'all are upset about the result and I am too. Lots of upset people lose court cases everyday. You have to show up with EVIDENCE. None of the above is admissible evidence.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: Blaine County]
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12/03/20 11:15 AM
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What the heck, I have a few minutes before Court starts. Here bowhunter 27295's cut and pasted PM to me. With some short responses.
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It would be nice to have an honest dialogue with someone on the other side of the political aisle I am a registered republican. I would register libertarian but I like voting in the republican primaries. For the one millionth time, I did not support Biden/Harris and did not vote for Biden/Harris. I'll take the 2A challenge against anyone and I wanted Trump to win for that reason. I would just prefer that the Republicans stop embarrassing themselves.
These are hard facts and not opinions. Tell me what you think. Look them up if you don't believe me. See below.
So let's get some perspective here.
Everyone remembers how much enthusiasm the former person who occupied the presidents office generated. Admittedly and truthfully he had massive crowds and chanting throngs of people. You all remember, "yes we can". Songs were made about his last name. You all remember the excitement he generated and how little excitement Mitt Romney generated. Kind of looks familiar doesn't it? In 2012 he received 62,615,406 votes. That was 3,473,402 more votes than Romney received. Enthusiasm and excitement is not admissible evidence in Court. Evidence (in fact, very specific evidence) is how you prove fraud.
Now let's talk about the 2020 vote.
Biden had a lack luster following, AT BEST, and had dozens turn out to his events. Trump had literally 10s of thousands show up for each one of his events. Flags on trucks, bumper stickers, window stickers, yard signs. An unbelievable following with as much or more enthusiasm for his reelection as the former occupant of the presidents office. I sincerely hope no one actually wants to argue about that fact. Enthusiasm is not admissible evidence in Court. Enthusiasm and the number of bumper stickers is not voting.
So here are some numbers.
In 2012, the former occupant of the presidents office received 62,615,406 votes. Remember the crowds that followed him. In 2020, Biden now has 81,001,401 votes according to what the media is telling us. That is nearly 19 MILLION more votes than the former occupant!!!! This is not admissible evidence of anything.
19 million!!!!!!!! That is the entire population of NC and MI combined. The #9 and #10 most populous states in the US.
!n 2012, Romney received 59,142,004 votes with his lack luster following. 1n 2020, Trump received 74,102,251 with his massive following. That is only 15 million more than Romney.
So based on what everyone saw in this nation and this campaign, I am supposed to believe that the enthusiasm I saw for Biden was equal to 19 MILLION more votes than the former occupant. Y'all do remember the columns and fainting women for him, right? This is not admissible evidence of anything. And see enthusiasm comment above.
I am also supposed to believe, Trump only generated 15 million more votes than Romney. Y'all did see the 100s of thousands of red MAGA hats across this nation, right? Wearing MAGA hats is not voting. Again, elections (and trials) are not decided by the number of hats people wear.
So the former occupant beat Romney by 3.4 million with his millions of supporters. And now we are told Biden beat Trump by 7 million with Trumps millions of supporters.
Who actually believes this? I am giving hard factual numbers and anyone should be able to see this election is THEFT. The American people have had their election stolen from them. Then we need to prove it--with actual admissible evidence of fraud.
I get it. Y'all are upset about the result and I am too. Lots of upset people lose court cases everyday. You have to show up with EVIDENCE. None of the above is admissible evidence.
What about circumstantial evidence? Wouldnt some of the things cited be considered such? From what I have seen there is a lot of eyewitness testimony as well.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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12/03/20 11:33 AM
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While I agree with you on not being admissible evidence if it were in court, please tell me you do see "issues" with the numbers?
Get out of your lawyer frame of mind and tell me who you honestly believe won the election.
As a lawyer, you know there have also been perfect crimes. The election was lost with mass mail in voting. People should have to put forth some effort to vote--request and absentee or show up. And, there was likely fraud too with the mail in voting. Was there enough to change the result? Probably not.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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12/03/20 11:36 AM
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Lawyers have a mind set of "prove it" and that is exactly what Trump is trying to do.
But because Trump is trying to prove the fraudulent nature of this election based on the numbers I am pointing out, he is a sore loser. It appears some lawyers have already assigned guilt and innocence without allowing the evidence to be produced first. And when Trump and his team go to find those numbers, they are portrayed as conspiracy theorists. They are ignored when they try to produce evidence and when they show evidence has been destroyed they get the "what evidence" question.
Trump and Powell will show the evidence and it will go to the Supreme Court. It will be a matter of if the SCOTUS will hear it.
Either way, the numbers and the circumstantial evidence show this election to be a fraud. Anyone with rationale can see that.
If I know a bike is mine and I have not marked it in any way and my neighbor all of a sudden "finds" a bike exactly like mine but I can't prove it is mine, is that bike his? I don't have a receipt and neither does he.
Would you believe it was his? If that was my bike I would have got a whippin for leaving my bike in the ditch.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/03/20 11:55 AM
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And not just the presidential race, look at the 22nd congressional district in NY. After Election Day Tenny, (R) was leading by 28,000 votes. Then after counting mail in ballots, her lead was cut to 12 votes. Now just the other day, miraculously, 55 more absentee ballots were found in Chenango County. Who wants to bet they are for Her opponent incumbent, Brindisi, (D) ? Election Day was a month ago and they still have not declared a winner.
As far as a shooting civil war breaking out, no way. I’ve said it before, few are willing to sacrifice everything like our founders did.
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