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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079575
12/08/20 02:45 PM
12/08/20 02:45 PM
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Well, didn't people complain to the Supreme Court that Pennsylvania was not following its written election laws and John Roberts said he didn't want to get involved and sent the case back to Pennsylvania?

I guess now he's involved whether he likes it or not. He should have taken a stance and made a ruling before it got to this point.


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079585
12/08/20 02:57 PM
12/08/20 02:57 PM
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Different era.
About the same odds.
Some of the same flags.
Same principles.

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Kart29] #7079624
12/08/20 03:29 PM
12/08/20 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kart29
Well, didn't people complain to the Supreme Court that Pennsylvania was not following its written election laws and John Roberts said he didn't want to get involved and sent the case back to Pennsylvania?

I guess now he's involved whether he likes it or not. He should have taken a stance and made a ruling before it got to this point.


Exactly ! This could have all been avoided if Roberts followed the law rather than ideology.

It won't surprise me to see them refuse this case. Frankly, I am confused about exactly how Texas has been harmed. Their votes are certified and will go to the Electoral College. I don't see how they have standing.
Clearly law has been violated by the other states and SCOTUS should address that. But I'd bet they won't


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079636
12/08/20 03:40 PM
12/08/20 03:40 PM
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I believe all these scenarios were already thought out and have pre-predicted out comes, I remember last summer when people predicted that the election would be decided by the SC.

Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079642
12/08/20 03:44 PM
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Texas has standing because the constitution is an agreement made between the States to run Presidential elections under certain criteria. That contract/criteria was breached, and thus, here we are.
A State court can't sanction another, SCOTUS is the appropriate course.
This was always the smartest course. Because it does not require proving fraud of any kind. You can claim that changes made in the election process itself were unconstitutional, so it doesn't matter if the votes were legit or fraudulent, because they were made under false/unconstitutional practices in the first place.

Furthermore, so anyone questioning whether the SCOTUS would hear this at all?

Well, it's been docketed. No. 22O155

The remedy under the constitution is a House vote FYI.

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079698
12/08/20 04:28 PM
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Lazuras , the state of Texas is its citizens. The state govt can Sue on their behalf. The AG of California filed many suits against the Trump administration on behalf of the citizens.

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Ouananiche] #7079704
12/08/20 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ouananiche
Texas has standing because the constitution is an agreement made between the States to run Presidential elections under certain criteria. That contract/criteria was breached, and thus, here we are.
A State court can't sanction another, SCOTUS is the appropriate course.
This was always the smartest course. Because it does not require proving fraud of any kind. You can claim that changes made in the election process itself were unconstitutional, so it doesn't matter if the votes were legit or fraudulent, because they were made under false/unconstitutional practices in the first place.

Furthermore, so anyone questioning whether the SCOTUS would hear this at all?

Well, it's been docketed. No. 22O155

The remedy under the constitution is a House vote FYI.

**Sorry for being Canadian


That's encouraging !!


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Lazarus] #7079706
12/08/20 04:39 PM
12/08/20 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Originally Posted by warrior


14th equal protection

Texas citizens followed the law while others did not. Texas citizens were harmed and effectively disenfranchised.


My point exactly. The Equal Protection clause does not protect states; it protects individuals. So citizens of Texas may have standing, but not the state of Texas. I could be wrong. I appreciate that Texas is taking a stand and all that, but I predict the Supremes toss the case based on standing. And on mootness. And on the lack of an available remedy. But what do I know?


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079722
12/08/20 04:56 PM
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I know just enough to be dangerous.

I thought a lot of folks on here were trappers, and yet everyday I see evidence to the contrary. :-) Just kidding, don't start the hate mail. Again.


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079724
12/08/20 04:58 PM
12/08/20 04:58 PM
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Summary Unanimous Supreme Court ruling July 6 2020

The interesting thing is Texas is only trying to invalidate appointments of electors, not the Election that would effect all the House and Senate elections in these States.

Last edited by Dirt; 12/08/20 05:07 PM.

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Lazarus] #7079733
12/08/20 05:09 PM
12/08/20 05:09 PM
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SCOTUS will probably toss it after the announcement by Rep. Biedermann at noon today 12/8/2020.

Today, Texans are one step closer to having their voices heard on the issue of Texas independence. This morning, State Representative Kyle Biedermann has submitted the Texas Independence Referendum Act to be filed in the next session of the Texas Legislature.


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079735
12/08/20 05:10 PM
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The U.S. Supreme Court cases cited in the article were brought by or against electors vis--vis their state. In other words, Colorado didn't sue Washington and argue that it should have done something different with how it handled its electors, which is what I understand the basis of the Texas lawsuit to be.


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Lazarus] #7079754
12/08/20 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
The U.S. Supreme Court cases cited in the article were brought by or against electors vis--vis their state. In other words, Colorado didn't sue Washington and argue that it should have done something different with how it handled its electors, which is what I understand the basis of the Texas lawsuit to be.


I agree. I posted it for informational purposes regarding appointing electors and how the Current Supremes have veiwed it from some of the background information.

I keep hearing people saying that the U.S. Constituion limits the State legislatures to making rules for elections. However this is clearly layed out in the Constitution that this is for Senators and Representatives. No mention of Presidents.

"Section 4
Clause 1
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079898
12/08/20 07:09 PM
12/08/20 07:09 PM
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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079909
12/08/20 07:13 PM
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I apologize if I missed this above, but Louisiana has joined Texas in the suit.

Re: God Bless Texas [Re: trapdog1] #7079924
12/08/20 07:24 PM
12/08/20 07:24 PM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I apologize if I missed this above, but Louisiana has joined Texas in the suit.


You know it's real when the Cajuns pile on. That has been my hope since I first heard of it. That multiple states join in.

Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079947
12/08/20 07:34 PM
12/08/20 07:34 PM
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... Texas ... Louisiana... a few more and we can form a confederation again... aught to be easy this time... half the yanks have moved down here so we already got a mess of pows before it even fires up lol

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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7079958
12/08/20 07:40 PM
12/08/20 07:40 PM
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North East Kansas
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Hopefully somethimg plays out and send biden packing or it will come down to #resist.


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Re: God Bless Texas [Re: Savell] #7079964
12/08/20 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
... Texas ... Louisiana... a few more and we can form a confederation again... aught to be easy this time... half the yanks have moved down here so we already got a mess of pows before it even fires up lol

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Shame that my state is one your suing but if y'all will head this way you'll find you got lots of support here.

Re: God Bless Texas [Re: warrior] #7080270
12/08/20 09:53 PM
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Georgia
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Seven states have joined.

ALABAMA
ARKANSAS
MISSISSIPPI
SOUTH CAROLINA
SOUTH DAKOTA
FLORIDA
KENTUCKY

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