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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: MJM] #7096636
12/19/20 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
Don't you think if this was a real pandemic, all the big wigs would have been first in line. It would be for the good of all.


Over 313,000 dead, an average of 3000 a day now, and you don't think it's real?

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: MJM] #7096645
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Originally Posted by MJM
Don't you think if this was a real pandemic, all the big wigs would have been first in line. It would be for the good of all.


The VP of the US has taken it. Is that a big enough big wig?

I'm still not taking it lol.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096675
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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096689
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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096722
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Pretty much. But then, I don't have twitter, youtube or facebook to get the "truth".

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096832
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local TSC sold out of Ivermectin. Mmmm Whats the deal...... Folks getting livestock recently. Never saw this before.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096853
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aknome, here is what I think. I would bet this can all be traced back to Bill Gates.
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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: aknome] #7096858
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Originally Posted by aknome
Pretty much. But then, I don't have twitter, youtube or facebook to get the "truth".

Love it!


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: bowhunter27295] #7096867
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by aknome


I did not ask what the CDC says. I asked if YOU believe those numbers.




I'll wager a million bucks he does ...... absolutely


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7096938
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I learned about using fear as a motivator from my personal friend and insurance man. Anytime I would ask him to quote some type of policy. He would would start a rant on what would happen to me if I DIDN'T buy the insurance. In this case ( fear of dying is the motivator) . I have a problem with the delivery of the virus, and then ....here's the the cure. If you don't take it you and your friends will die. Well...... TAKE I cant say it on Trapperman .

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Originally Posted by cattails

I learned about using fear as a motivator from my personal friend and insurance man. Anytime I would ask him to quote some type of policy. He would would start a rant on what would happen to me if I DIDN'T buy the insurance. In this case ( fear of dying is the motivator) . I have a problem with the delivery of the virus, and then ....here's the the cure. If you don't take it you and your friends will die. Well...... TAKE I cant say it on Trapperman .


I would also like to say that I respect and understand others decisions based on they're health and life conditions.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097071
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No disrespect meant bowhunter. I know I have access to youtube. But some on here have used such to try to "prove" things. Some are so fearful of any government data that I doubt they sleep at night.

There has to be some faith in what institutions tell us for society to function. Do you believe your bank statement? Or do you lug around your savings in gold dust? That doesn't happen even here where they make TV shows about gold mining. They prefer cash.
It appears many on here have money in the stock market. You can buy stock and watch your fortune rise or fall by the hour. There has to be some faith involved there.
When I apply for a drawing permit for all sheep or brown bear, I can check the statistics on how many applied and how many were successful in the past. I've been a data collector for the state, and there's millions of Americans doing it every day. They aren't in some huge plot to mislead us.
What does the CDC stand to gain by misleading us? Or John Hopkins if you prefer. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data
Prefer the west coast? Here's the University of Washington. https://covid19.healthdata.org/global?view=total-deaths&tab=trend
I have recent personal knowledge of the abilities of some medical folks there.

Without going into detail; let's just say that I've gotten to live for 25 more years and counting due to modern medicine. I'm what one would call high risk. Some conditions genetic; some self inflicted. I don't even know how many diseases for which I've had vaccinations. Some go back to childhood. I trust modern medicine. I get a flu shot every year. I'll get this vaccine when I can. I have no wish to be another piece of daily data for some here to scoff at.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097074
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Well said Aknome.
Agree 100%
Most people have,or should have a good rapport with their family doctor.
I sure do,he's an outdoorsman and a big part of the community.I trust him to tell it straight and let me make the decision based on his advice and knowledge.
He will also refer me to any specialist for a second opinion if I have any doubts about his advice.
When I make my decision about a covid vaccine I will have a good talk with Dan to get his advice.I know if he has any concerns about the vaccine he will tell me strait.

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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097093
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I'll get this vaccine when I can. I have no wish to be another piece of daily data for some here to scoff at.

Oh, but that daily data is on display,...personal choice =personal affirmation

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097152
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Let's all get the COVID vaccine they said. It will be great, they said...

https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/nurse-faints-while-talking-to-press-about-getting-covid-19-vaccine/


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097171
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There was a video of the press conference a few days ago where she was talking about the benefits of the vaccine and then randomly just passed out hours after getting it. Google and Youtube have removed it though, not surprisingly. This is the type of censorship we are in for for at least the next 4 years.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097212
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Just use the same logic I keep hearing about covid. If you have a reaction from the shot its only a small percentage and everyone has to die sometime.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7097270
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Institutions told us that our President was a Russian asset. 50 "graduates" of our institutions assured us that any information about the spawn of Biden was Russian disinformation. I would say that our institutions have a spotty track record, at best. It is America, you are free to believe what you want, or not.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Wild_Idaho] #7097361
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
There was a video of the press conference a few days ago where she was talking about the benefits of the vaccine and then randomly just passed out hours after getting it. Google and Youtube have removed it though, not surprisingly. This is the type of censorship we are in for for at least the next 4 years.


Nope they did not. You can easily find it online many places right now.

After recovering, Dover—who’s a nurse manager at a hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee—told WTVC-TV, “It just hit me all of the sudden, I could feel it coming on. I felt a little disoriented but I feel fine now, and the pain in my arm is gone.” She then explained her medical condition, which causes her to faint when she feels pain. A spokeswoman for the hospital told Reuters that Dover “quickly recovered” following the incident.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9817674811


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