Re: ammo shortage response
[Re: tlguy]
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12/18/20 10:24 PM
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So they're making more ammo than they ever have, yet every time the average person goes to the store the shelves are completely bare. Is it just a matter of being there right after they've stocked the shelves? Does it pay to be there when the doors get unlocked and check if they stocked more overnight? I've asked numerous workers at local gun stores and local sporting goods departments and all have told me they are not getting much if any ammunition in. Maybe more ammunition is being made, but it's most definitely not being delivered for sale around me. Keith
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Re: ammo shortage response
[Re: il.trapper]
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12/18/20 10:50 PM
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Probably just me but as the CEO of a company under pressure for production shortages I would have been more apologetic and less combative. Thought he came off as kind of a jerk. Kind of it’s your fault for wanting too much, not my fault for not producing enough.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 10:54 PM
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Probably just me but as the CEO of a company under pressure for production shortages I would have been more apologetic and less combative. Thought he came off as kind of a jerk. Kind of it’s your fault for wanting too much, not my fault for not producing enough. He’s not wrong though. We all know at least one guy that buys every box he can get his hands on even though he already has 59,000 rounds in his basement. And with all the conspiracies going around more and more are getting to be that way
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Re: ammo shortage response
[Re: il.trapper]
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12/18/20 10:56 PM
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If you guys came up short after the last shortage not so long ago who’s fault is it really. LOL
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Re: ammo shortage response
[Re: il.trapper]
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12/18/20 11:00 PM
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thanks , I knew they were making ammo.
7 million new gun owners in 2020 they had been saying 5 illion Aug 24th I was guessing 7 million would be about where it ended up , good confirmation of that.
if each new gun owner bought 2 boxes of pistol ammo or 4 boxes of shot shells or 5 boxes of rifle ammo 100 rounds each 700 million rounds 2 rounds for every single man, woman or child in the nation that is just for the New gun owners the other 72 million gun owners take us to 79 million
really who buys just a hundred rounds
I think the american public could buy 7.9 billion rounds easy enough if every one bought Just 100 rounds
have you bought 100 or more rounds this year ? I bough that in #4 shot for pheasant hunting. most everything else was reloading supplies.
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Re: ammo shortage response
[Re: il.trapper]
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12/18/20 11:02 PM
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How many Stores do you think sell ammo in the U.S.A.? How many different calibers are there. Each machine can only make one caliber at one time. Example: if they are running 22 LR they have to re-tool to make 22 Shorts or 9mm and so on.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:03 PM
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If you guys came up short after the last shortage not so long ago who’s fault is it really. LOL Ain't that the truth, if Obama taught us anything, it was to stack ammo deep when it is plentiful.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:07 PM
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How many Stores do you think sell ammo in the U.S.A.? How many different calibers are there. Each machine can only make one caliber at one time. Example: if they are running 22 LR they have to re-tool to make 22 Shorts or 9mm and so on. multiple machines running 22lr all day every day multiple running 9mm all day every day multiple running 223 all day every day machines running 308 all day every day some of the hunting ammo is more seasonal runs 22-250 , 7mm-08 , 32 win spl , and others are more likely set up the machine run days or weeks then change machine to run another. 22 shorts may be a single machine or seasonal run.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:11 PM
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If you guys came up short after the last shortage not so long ago who’s fault is it really. LOL Ain't that the truth, if Obama taught us anything, it was to stack ammo deep when it is plentiful. do you ever really have it deep enough, when you don't know when your getting more , shooting what you have just for fun gets harder. you might have 1000 rounds set aside , but when none is available with no date you will see it again , it becomes sight in a little practice , shoot game
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:17 PM
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How many Stores do you think sell ammo in the U.S.A.? How many different calibers are there. Each machine can only make one caliber at one time. Example: if they are running 22 LR they have to re-tool to make 22 Shorts or 9mm and so on. multiple machines running 22lr all day every day multiple running 9mm all day every day multiple running 223 all day every day machines running 308 all day every day some of the hunting ammo is more seasonal runs 22-250 , 7mm-08 , 32 win spl , and others are more likely set up the machine run days or weeks then change machine to run another. 22 shorts may be a single machine or seasonal run. How many 22LR can be made in two 8 hour shift. Remember the machines have to maintenance and repair do on them.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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thanks , I knew they were making ammo.
7 million new gun owners in 2020 they had been saying 5 illion Aug 24th I was guessing 7 million would be about where it ended up , good confirmation of that.
if each new gun owner bought 2 boxes of pistol ammo or 4 boxes of shot shells or 5 boxes of rifle ammo 100 rounds each 700 million rounds 2 rounds for every single man, woman or child in the nation that is just for the New gun owners the other 72 million gun owners take us to 79 million
really who buys just a hundred rounds
I think the american public could buy 7.9 billion rounds easy enough if every one bought Just 100 rounds
have you bought 100 or more rounds this year ? I bough that in #4 shot for pheasant hunting. most everything else was reloading supplies. The numbers change real fast when we talk about all gun owners. From millions to billions of rounds.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:32 PM
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Bob I don't have But 40000 rds And I don't have a basement. But I did see this coming And I know have plenty of ammo when most people have none ! LoL! It’s all your fault! Lol I have enough ammo to shoot what I normally use up in around 2 years or so. Right around 10,000 rounds altogether if I had to guess
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Re: ammo shortage response
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12/18/20 11:38 PM
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How many 22LR can be made in two 8 hour shift. Remember the machines have to maintenance and repair do on them.
during the 22 shortage Federal said they could make about 4 million a day and they were increasing capacity. every load is different on the calibration time and maintenance , it doesn't necessarily have to be every day maintenance or 8 hours every day. when he says they are making more ammo than they ever have before , the presses were in full swing in Nov 2016 , there were great deals on ammo 6 months later and for 2 1/2 years after that.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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