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Trapping illegal next year #7128293
01/09/21 01:13 PM
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Indiana
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They will ban all hunting and trapping . they have control and we can't do a thing about it . you say no it can't happen it all ready is they are writing as we speak.

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128297
01/09/21 01:18 PM
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NE Wisconsin
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Disobey

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128306
01/09/21 01:26 PM
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Sandhills Nebraska
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"It is your public duty to resist!" Member who said that?


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128307
01/09/21 01:26 PM
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Central Texas
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I’m lucky to be in Texas. Not much fur value, but lots of control work. I trap 12 months a year. I hope the new regime doesn’t take trapping away.

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128314
01/09/21 01:30 PM
01/09/21 01:30 PM
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S.E. Ohio
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You must be miserable all the time if you have convinced yourself that half of what you say is true.

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128316
01/09/21 01:32 PM
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If they can ban the president of the US they are capable of doing this and worse . we now have comuness running the country.

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128325
01/09/21 01:45 PM
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Easy boys .... no reason for anyone else in the family to get a vacation. In case u missed it Paul is serious about no politics right now

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: Yes sir] #7128331
01/09/21 01:49 PM
01/09/21 01:49 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Easy boys .... no reason for anyone else in the family to get a vacation. In case u missed it Paul is serious about no politics right now


As long as it pertains to hunting and trapping, it's okay to post and comment. Keep it on that and it's alright.



Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128338
01/09/21 01:54 PM
01/09/21 01:54 PM
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We can only fight the fights in front of us. I do wonder on the legality of a federal ban on trapping, has anyone ever looked into that?

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128341
01/09/21 01:58 PM
01/09/21 01:58 PM
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Tug Hill, NY
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If this come true, then the fur I have at FHA will be worth a premium, because it will be some of the last for sale. LMaO

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Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128345
01/09/21 02:00 PM
01/09/21 02:00 PM
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Central, SD
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You will be making more doing damage control as you can bet it won’t be cheap from that point on if it comes about. You will get paid nicely for what you did for free before typical Government intervention result. As long as animals roam the earth trappers/hunters will be needed.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128356
01/09/21 02:17 PM
01/09/21 02:17 PM
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Northern Maine
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Very hard times ahead.


My President is still President Trump
Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128365
01/09/21 02:23 PM
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This country has enough problems without folks spreading rumors and giving folks unnecessary cause for fear.


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Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128369
01/09/21 02:26 PM
01/09/21 02:26 PM
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Central, SD
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SD will become a sanctuary fur state then. LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128377
01/09/21 02:32 PM
01/09/21 02:32 PM
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WI
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I'm staying positive. We'll have trapping. The sky isn't falling.

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128381
01/09/21 02:40 PM
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It will stay legal in KS, TX, NE, both N and S D, WY, UT for awhile. NM is getting iffy.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128393
01/09/21 02:50 PM
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No mention of AK? Lol Danny

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128410
01/09/21 03:10 PM
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I don't think all trapping will be banned, but I think most of our common traps will be. The democrats, who now control the House, the Senate and the Presidency and who are planning to take control of the Supreme Court, by changing the number of justices, hate trapping for the most part. H.R. 8828 will likely pass soon, banning all leghold and body gripping traps.

"H. R. 8828

To restrict the use of steel-jaw leghold traps and Conibear traps on animals in the United States.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
December 2, 2020
Ms. Adams (for herself and Mrs. Lowey) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, and Foreign Affairs, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL
To restrict the use of steel-jaw leghold traps and Conibear traps on animals in the United States.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Public Safety and Wildlife Protection Act”.

SEC. 2. DECLARATION OF POLICY.

It is the policy of the United States to reduce risks to public safety, as well as unnecessary harm to companion animals and wildlife, from indiscriminate and injurious trapping methods by prohibiting the import or export of, and the shipment in interstate commerce of, steel-jaw leghold traps and Conibear traps.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITED ACTS AND PENALTIES.

(a) Prohibited Acts.—It shall be unlawful for any person—

(1) to import, export, deliver, carry, or transport by any means whatever, in interstate commerce, any steel-jaw leghold trap or Conibear trap; or

(2) to sell, receive, acquire, or purchase any steel-jaw leghold trap or Conibear trap that was delivered, carried, or transported in violation of paragraph (1).

(b) Penalties.—Whoever knowingly violates subsection (a) shall, in addition to any other penalty that may be imposed, be subject to the following:

(1) For the first such violation, a civil fine of not more than $500 imposed by the Secretary for each steel-jaw leghold trap or Conibear trap possessed.

(2) For each subsequent violation, a civil fine of not more than $1,000 imposed by the Secretary for each steel-jaw leghold trap or Conibear trap possessed, or imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or both.

(c) Payment Of Court Costs And Other Associated Expenses.—A person found to be in violation of subsection (a) shall pay all court costs associated therewith.

SEC. 4. REWARDS.

(a) General Rule.—The Secretary shall pay, to any person who furnishes information that leads to a conviction of a violation of any provision of this Act or any rule made under this Act, an amount equal to one-half of the fine paid pursuant to the conviction.

(b) Exception.—Any officer or employee of the United States or of any State or local government who furnishes information or renders service in the performance of his or her official duties is not eligible for payment under this section.

SEC. 5. ENFORCEMENT.

(a) In General.—Except with respect to violations of this Act to which subsection (b) applies, this Act and any rules made under this Act shall be enforced by the Secretary, who may use by agreement, with or without reimbursement, the personnel, services, and facilities of any other Federal agency or any State agency for purposes of enforcing this Act and such rules.

(b) Import And Export Violations.—

(1) IMPORT VIOLATIONS.—The importation of articles in violation of section 3(a) shall be treated as a violation of the customs laws of the United States, and those provisions of law relating to violations of the customs laws of the United States shall apply thereto.

(2) EXPORT VIOLATIONS.—The authorities under the Export Administration Act of 1979 (50 U.S.C. App. 2401 et seq.) (as continued in effect under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act), including penalties, shall be used to enforce the provisions of this Act relating to the export of articles in violation of section 3(a).

(c) Forfeiture.—

(1) GENERAL RULE.—Except with respect to exports to which the provisions of the Export Administration Act of 1979 (50 U.S.C. App. 2401 et seq.) (as continued in effect under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act) apply, and imports to which the customs laws of the United States apply, pursuant to subsection (b), any steel-jaw leghold trap or Conibear trap taken, possessed, sold, purchased, offered for sale or purchase, imported, exported, transported, delivered, received, carried, or shipped in violation of this Act or any rule made under this Act, shall be subject to forfeiture to the United States. Those provisions of law relating to—

(A) the seizure, summary and judicial forfeiture, and condemnation of property for violations of the customs laws of the United States;

(B) the disposition of such property or the proceeds from the sale thereof;

(C) the remission or mitigation of such forfeitures; and

(D) the compromise of claims,

shall apply to seizures and forfeitures incurred, or alleged to have been incurred, under the provisions of this subsection, insofar as applicable and not inconsistent with this Act.

(2) ENFORCEMENT.—Such duties as are imposed upon the customs officer or any other person with respect to the seizure and forfeiture of property under the customs laws of the United States may be performed with respect to seizures and forfeitures of property under this subsection by the Secretary or such officers and employees as may be authorized or designated for that purpose by the Secretary, or, upon the request of the Secretary, by any other agency that has authority to manage and dispose of seized property.

(d) Injunctions.—The Attorney General of the United States may seek to enjoin any person who is alleged to be in violation of this Act or any rule made under this Act.

(e) Cooperation.—The Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the head of any other department or agency with enforcement responsibilities under this Act shall cooperate with the Secretary in ensuring that this Act, and rules made under this Act, are enforced in the most effective and efficient manner.

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) STEEL-JAW LEGHOLD TRAP.—The term “steel-jaw leghold trap”—

(A) means any spring-powered pan or sear-activated device with one or two opposing steel jaws, whether the jaws are smooth, toothed, padded, enclosed (dog-proof), or offset, that is designed to capture an animal by snapping closed upon the animal’s limb, foot, or part thereof; and

(B) does not include any cage or box trap; suitcase-type live beaver trap; or mouse or rat snap trap.

(2) CONIBEAR TRAP.—The term “Conibear trap”—

(A) means any trap consisting of two metal frames hinged at the center point and powered by two torsion springs to create a scissor-like action designed to kill an animal by snapping an animal’s spinal column; and

(B) does not include any cage or box trap; suitcase-type live beaver trap; mouse or rat snap trap.

(3) CUSTOMS LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.—The term “customs laws of the United States” means any other law or regulation enforced or administered by the United States Customs Service.

(4) IMPORT.—The term “import” means to land on, bring into, or introduce into, any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, whether or not such landing, bringing, or introduction constitutes an entry into the customs territory of the United States.

(5) INTERSTATE COMMERCE.—The term “interstate commerce” has the meaning given such term in section 10 of title 18, United States Code.

(6) SECRETARY.—The term “Secretary” means the Secretary of the Interior.

SEC. 7. RULEMAKING.

The Secretary may make rules to carry out this Act.

SEC. 8. EFFECTIVE DATE.

This Act shall take effect 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act."

I think sportfishing will be greatly curtailed. I suspect catch and release fishing will be banned like it in Germany and that limits will be greatly reduced.

Keith

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: danny clifton] #7128411
01/09/21 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
It will stay legal in KS, TX, NE, both N and S D, WY, UT for awhile. NM is getting iffy.


I feel like MN could get iffy, there is less need for rural support all the time, a ballot initiative could really cause havoc in MN

Re: Trapping illegal next year [Re: concrete man] #7128417
01/09/21 03:23 PM
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For one I'm with T-Rev pass what they want I'm still doin what I I feel is right. As far as the bill goes may just have to start buying some assembly required products as it does not specify parts.

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