no bail required in illinois....
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hopefully this post doesn't violate the no politics rule..def not trying to spite paul in any way, shape or form.....just posting out of sheer disgust
early this morning in Illinois,,,lawmakers voted to do away with bail in Illinois in both the house and senate.......and is now awaiting signature from the govonor
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." - 8th Amendment US Constitution.
Excessive bail is wrong. If it's reasonable to believe that someone is so dangerous that they should remain in custody until trial, there is no requirement to offer bail. They can be held until trial and that's fine with me.
But the common practice of holding a person on bail they can't afford is wrong because it favors the rich. Those who can't raise the money stay in jail while those who are equally guilty get to go home. There have been several cases where multiple people were charged with committing a crime together. The kid with the rich parents went home. The others sat in jail for years.
So, I'm fine with getting rid of bail. Hold them if they're a danger and let them go home to wait for trial if they aren't.
-Ryan
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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Lot of bail bondsmen out of bussiness
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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Anarchy coming to a city near you soon. Lock and load, when they are done raping the city, they will filter out into the country. Fill the backhoes so the trenches can be dug quickly.
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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01/14/21 07:49 PM
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this bill is more dangerous than I thought....lots more things im finding out...........its pretty much a defund the police bill........one of the provisions of the bill says police cannot chase a suspect.........so if someone is beating the crap out of someone,,,and the individual takes off running when the cops show up........they cannot chase him.
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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01/14/21 08:15 PM
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Defunding the police will be quickly reversed when those in power realize they are creating an environment that forces people to become RESPONSIBLE for themselves and everything about their existence. You know, the people that will quickly learn they have the power to do something with their life instead of settling for what can be given to them.
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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The US is really the only developed nation that still uses a money bail system. And if you are concerned about rights, think about it from this perspective: 2 people are arrested for the same offense. They have the same amount of prior convictions (or lack thereof). One has money, the other doesn't. One person gets his freedom pending trial, the other doesn't. Is that equal rights?
In multiple jurisdictions where they have done away with money bail in the US, they have not seen an increase in crime or a decrease in having people return for court.
I'm not suggesting that every person who is charged with a crime be allowed to walk the streets. Some people aught to be held in custody. Yet I have changed my thoughts about whether or not the thing keeping them in custody is their ability to come up with the cash to post bail. The person “without” money can retain a bondsman. If that person appears and is found innocent let the state pay the bondsmans vig. Maybe then the state will be more careful about the charges they bring and against who. Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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Re: no bail required in illinois....
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01/14/21 08:38 PM
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Thanks for nothing Illinois, now 1000 more liberals will move from there to Austin and then vote for the same crap that ruined their own state.
Yall think I exaggerate but I don't need to
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