I know quite a few trappers In my area and none of them are targeting coon and very few are even trapping rats. Sure we are catching some incidental coon In rat sets and coyotes sets. Most of the large numbers of green skinned coon being sold are dog hunted.
Coon hunters have a yard full of dogs to feed and run so they feel the need to kill coon. A trapper can leave his traps hanging In the shed with no cost to him.
I'm betting most of coon being sold to groney In my area are dog hunted. Sorry dog hunters, but most of you know very little about putting up fur or just don't care. Rough skin In the field bring them home and toss In the freezer.

Sounds like the perfect money making gig for those that think there's money in the no value fur.

Buy yourself a fur dealers license, truck and fuel. Then follow Groeny around and offer those with no value fur a couple bucks for it.

Then sell it and make a mint!!!

The problem with that, Is you don't have a MARKET for that NO Value fur. But Groney does.
For the most part I feel that groney Is doing you a favor by taking that fur. What are you going to do? Take It home and put It up or toss In back In the freezer or throw It In the ditch.

Packer Country Rocks!!

There is money in no value fur. Maybe not for the trapper or the middlemen. The guy at the end of the no value fur chain is going to make money or go out of business.

Most of the fur trappers/hunters are selling to Groeny is" no value" ( unprofitable ) to those producers.

I agree, I was recommending that to those who see value in it and think Groeny is taking the trappers over.

If Groeny can make it work, surely someone else can? Lol

I’m not disputing Groney’s claim of no value. I firmly believe he can’t afford to pay for that type fur. I’m asking why does the trapper let him keep it when he obviously making something off of it or he wouldn’t be keeping it.

If one of us would offer a seller $1 for the bottom 20-25% of his green WI coons before they were graded by a buyer we would be lucky to be alive. Sellers and me included really are not able and or willing to accept that if I catch 50 typical eastern WI coons from October 25th to November 10th that probably 15 to 20 of them are worth little to nothing as payment to the harvester. There were $1 coons back when the market was $15 put up on average so in reality the only thing that has changed is more are worth $1 and the top has dropped by 300%.

Bryce

That’s right...it all goes in the same pile in his truck. So he’s either putting it all up or grading it twice. And why would he waste his time grading twice? It doesn’t take much to figure that out.

Doesn't take any expert to sort out NO Value fur anyone can do It. That's why they got Those $5.00 an hour beaners.

It is possible that the “no value” pile is low grade fur he is not willing to put out cash on when considering known cost of processing/handling and additional unknown levels of damage discovered at time of processing. Some of that no value fur is likely salvageable for marketing after processing, however the percentage cannot likely be calculated thus the no value payout.
At current reported fur values, fur trapping does not appear profitable for the majority of trappers when considering all expenses and value of time.

He graded fur with about as much precision of hurrying through a bunch of deer hides. After the hard work of harvesting fur I think I would find that a bit disrespectful

Anyone who has looked at millions of hides a year for 30 years or more should be able to grade those skins with his eyes closed.
Those expert auction house fur graders don't spend 15 or 20 minutes per pelt trying to decide the grade. Practice makes perfect
I'm betting groney and his route men are some of those individuals.

The gift that keeps giving.

. I’m sure they don’t buy on averages either Beav. Or just throw out prices numbers depending on their mood. LOL

They know exactly what they are going to pay for your fur before you even get it out of the truck. I guess you could call that buying on a average. But his route men know how to grade fur.

. I have no doubt there excellent graders. Unfortunately they can manipulate the grade for an average perhaps below the furs actual value

Spot on.