Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/17/21 09:59 PM
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They seem pretty abundant in the Driftless Area. They really do a lot of damage when they start digging pocket gophers in farm fields.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/17/21 10:05 PM
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If you get a chance at any new season jump on its better to gain a season then to lose one. IMO
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/17/21 10:08 PM
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where is the wis trappers association on this?
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 01:32 AM
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You non WI residents and some of you WI residents don't realize how big the anti trapping population Is. It's been quite for some time no reason to get them all stirred up. And with this online voting It's like poking a hornets nest. So far we aren't losing anything but It could boil over and come back to bite us. Leave a sleeping dog lie.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 07:01 AM
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Do other states not harvest their state animal? Of course they do.
We should never have a problem defending the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Everything with a season has fared far better over the long haul. And it was the carrot that kept investment coming back into those species.
nimzy, we have opened up bobcat quite a bit in the last few years. Probably take a pretty big coordinated effort to continue to drive it up as we did loose a pretty influential person within the department. Funny thing is I saw more sign in Winnebago County than in years past. Just looking closer or something else driving it?
So why is it our state animal? But do you know the history behind the name? Many people think that it comes from an abundance of the black-and-white animal, but in reality Wisconsin has no more badgers than its neighboring states.
The nickname actually dates back to the 1820s, when mining became a huge business, leading thousands of men to the ample iron ore mines in the Midwest.
Wisconsin workers made temporary homes by digging caves into the rock of the mines, similar to tunnels that badgers dig for shelter. The miners came to be known as “badger boys” or “badgers,” and the name eventually came to represent the state itself. Source: Travel Wisconsin
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 08:18 AM
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nimzy, we have opened up bobcat quite a bit in the last few years. Probably take a pretty big coordinated effort to continue to drive it up as we did loose a pretty influential person within the department. Funny thing is I saw more sign in Winnebago County than in years past. Just looking closer or something else driving it?
Not enough Poor ice conditions in December inspired me to trap some mink. Why? Because i like catching them and greatly enjoy their environs. Anyway that style of trapping, that time of year is eye opening on the current status of our trophies. Looking close, nah.... just being there. I can remember when a coyote track was a rare find.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 08:36 AM
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You non WI residents and some of you WI residents don't realize how big the anti trapping population Is. It's been quite for some time no reason to get them all stirred up. And with this online voting It's like poking a hornets nest. So far we aren't losing anything but It could boil over and come back to bite us. Leave a sleeping dog lie. Careful Beav, sensible talk like that might get you labeled as an anti by some out of stater that has no skin in the game.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 10:29 AM
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You non WI residents and some of you WI residents don't realize how big the anti trapping population Is. It's been quite for some time no reason to get them all stirred up. And with this online voting It's like poking a hornets nest. So far we aren't losing anything but It could boil over and come back to bite us. Leave a sleeping dog lie. They shut down one season and it is in state statue. But you want to say don't kick the hornet nest? So should we just move to eliminate all fur trapping to appease those folks? Or do we take our case to the public about the benefits of trapping. The reason nuisance trapping polls so high is because the animal takes it to the public for us.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 10:53 AM
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Show me the benefit In trapping badgers. If the badger Is dong damage you can get a permit to eliminate that problem. Or I should say the land owner can.
You need to pick your fights to come out a winner. You weren't even born when we busted our butts so you still have that right to trap.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 11:58 AM
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Hook up with the GFP here we can upgrade your badger bloodlines with some quality specimens and see how quick things change. LOL Make sure you request a pair if civets with every badger to relocate in WI that would be a dream come true for me on the civets.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 12:08 PM
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Show me the benefit In trapping badgers. If the badger Is dong damage you can get a permit to eliminate that problem. Or I should say the land owner can.
You need to pick your fights to come out a winner. You weren't even born when we busted our butts so you still have that right to trap. Show me an animal that hasn't benefited from a regulated season? Of the hundreds, you think badger is going to be the outlier? As far as picking your fights, I agree. While I wasn't at the Capitol during the last clash, I am not afraid to learn from my history. What lead up to that point? Appeasement and the voluntary sacrifice of our tools of the trade so we wouldn't have to fight that battle, yet it came. Why? Because trappers sat in their corner afraid to talk to the general public about the benefits of regulated fur trapping and yet you encourage the same behavior today? The history should be clear, the public will come to our side when we stand behind the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, but we can't wait for them to kick the hornet nest and bring the fight to us. I will never pass up an opportunity to be out in the public square sharing the value of the model and the role regulated trapping plays in todays modern world.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 02:06 PM
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?[quote=The Beav]Show me the benefit In trapping badgers. If the badger Is dong damage you can get a permit to eliminate that problem. Or I should say the land owner can.
So Beav, are you also going to say the same about the wolves when the antis are going nuts about a harvest season on them ?
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 02:15 PM
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So your saying non- residents should be quiet on how other States manage their wildlife and seasons thats some sound advice folks. No problem voicing your opinions but when It comes down to the vote you don't have any say In the outcome. And you have nothing to lose.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 02:19 PM
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Show me the benefit In trapping badgers. If the badger Is dong damage you can get a permit to eliminate that problem. Or I should say the land owner can.
You need to pick your fights to come out a winner. You weren't even born when we busted our butts so you still have that right to trap. Show me an animal that hasn't benefited from a regulated season? Of the hundreds, you think badger is going to be the outlier? As far as picking your fights, I agree. While I wasn't at the Capitol during the last clash, I am not afraid to learn from my history. What lead up to that point? Appeasement and the voluntary sacrifice of our tools of the trade so we wouldn't have to fight that battle, yet it came. Why? Because trappers sat in their corner afraid to talk to the general public about the benefits of regulated fur trapping and yet you encourage the same behavior today? The history should be clear, the public will come to our side when we stand behind the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, but we can't wait for them to kick the hornet nest and bring the fight to us. I will never pass up an opportunity to be out in the public square sharing the value of the model and the role regulated trapping plays in todays modern world. Go out and knock on 100 doors In Mad town and explain to those 100 households why It would benefit the badger to have a season on It. And then get back to me.
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Re: Wi. Badger season
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01/18/21 06:09 PM
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I am not going door to door in that cesspool, but if you want help, I will gladly give some pointers and try to help you out. Looking at the WCC results, I see you had about 8000 folks vote on the badger season question in Dane County last year. Another 1500 participated in survey in Dane County, but had no opinion on a badger season. Nearly 20% didn't have an opinion and I am guessing quite a few of the ones that didn't support a season never really heard our side. Keep refusing to sell the benefits of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation to the public and you will end up back at the Capitol sooner than you think. The antis wont stop just because you are hiding in the corner. https://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/spring_hearing/2020/Results/2020_CountyResults.pdfBut you asked for the benefit of a season. One of the biggest benefit of a season is the data it provides. Doesn't matter if it is lake sturgeon, fisher, deer, or any other game animal for that matter. Harvest data is extremely valuable in keeping track of a population. Wasn't too long ago, researchers were not sure what they would find, yet sportsmen paid the tab. Here is an interesting article about some of the research. http://archive.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/90434294.htmlLatch notes that Michigan is known as the Wolverine State and yet no wolverines, aside from one that died in February, have been seen there in decades. "I didn't want the badger to fall into the situation where you've got Bucky Badger but no badgers," said Latch. Couldn't agree more. Time to re-open a season. Sportsmen will ensure they are around for years to come.
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