BTO in meat bait
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Does anyone add BTO to their ground meat based baits for coyotes? If so, can you suggest an amount per gallon to start out with? I know I'll have to do development to get the mix ratio I'm looking for, just looking for a starting point.
Thanks all!
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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Following this. I was actually all over the forums over the weekend ready info on BTO. I made a lure this season that I have had really good luck with, and was wanting to make something different to pair with it. I like using stuff that uses as many ingredients that I can make or harvest myself for quality and personals enjoyment/satisfaction.
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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I’ve not made it with just BTO, but I’ve made it using equal parts BTO, Spoonbill oil, and Gator oil. Try a small batch first at 1oz each per pint of each (that’s the ratio I used). It takes a bit for the gator to tame down in my experience.
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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I’ve not made it with just BTO, but I’ve made it using equal parts BTO, Spoonbill oil, and Gator oil. Try a small batch first at 1oz each per pint of each (that’s the ratio I used). It takes a bit for the gator to tame down in my experience.
Matt Thanks for the info Matt, sounds like a winner. To clarify, you mixed equal parts (bto, gator, spoonbill) and used it straight as a lure, or did you mix it with a meat/bait base? If with a bait base, how much did you mix per gallon of meat, 1 oz? thanks!
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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I’ve not made it with just BTO, but I’ve made it using equal parts BTO, Spoonbill oil, and Gator oil. Try a small batch first at 1oz each per pint of each (that’s the ratio I used). It takes a bit for the gator to tame down in my experience.
Matt Thanks Matt. It's not the only thing I'll add, but its a starting point to experiment with.
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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Matt - I was just going to ask where you got the gator oil, but you beat me to the punch.
As to the spoonbill oil, do you think you would have the same response with other fish oils? And I’m not talking salmon or trout but maybe home sun rendered oil from gizzard shad or something similar that is more available?
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Re: BTO in meat bait
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I have used the three ingredients (BTO, Gator oil, and Spoonbill oil) in formulation to make both a lure (combined with other musks and oils) and as a bait, with aged bobcat meat and ground deer liver and pork liver. The amount I used for the bait is what I quoted you bc you mentioned making a bait, not a lure, and I did use equal parts. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying that I’ve had good luck using the formulation I mentioned. I will tell you that if you make the bait as I mentioned, it has to be used in a hole, either a dirt hole or punch holes, but either way, it needs to be underground or a coyote will roll in it at first opportunity. It’s not something I tuck into a grass clump at a baited flat set. I’ve not tried any other oils, only the spoonbill oil. My goal in this formulation was to make a bait that a coyote would dig for. I have read that each of the 3 ingredients will elicit that type of response, so I chose to use all 3 in combination. I haven’t figured out how to quote a question and respond to it, so I’m trying to respond to each question here. The amount I quoted (1 oz of each of the 3) is what I added to to one pint of my combined aged bobcat, deer liver, pork liver, meat base.
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