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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: Pawnee] #7165978
02/02/21 08:49 AM
02/02/21 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
I have received many complaints on my put up over the years. Yesterday the buyer when asked said they were absolutely amazing. I wash them flesh after drying, board them upside down and then fur brush them and drum after they are finished.

So what did you average on them nice looking coyote?

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166304
02/02/21 02:34 PM
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I wash all mine. All you have to do is look at the left over rinse water to see how much dirt comes out.

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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166308
02/02/21 02:38 PM
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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166436
02/02/21 04:14 PM
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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166632
02/02/21 07:32 PM
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Lazarus - do you wash your fox and cats also? If so, how dirty are they compared to your coyotes.

Pawnee - nice looking pelts, a pleasure for a buyer to grade. If you decide to try my experiment would be interested in the results, with pictures.


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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166647
02/02/21 07:48 PM
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Wissmiss: There was a time I washed cats but then I bought one of those high pressure units they dry cattle with at livestock shows. Sorry I don't know the name of it but I found with that thing, I could blow the dirt and dust out of a cat hide. Usually I skin the cat, blot up any blood with a wet rag, and then flesh them good. Then I toss them in the tumbler for 5-10 minutes. That really cleans them up and makes them shine. I then put them on the stretcher, blow them out again real good, and hang the stretcher nose down to dry.

The coyote hair is just so dense, thick and long, that even with my high pressure apparatus, I could just never get all the dirt and dust out, so I wash them. And no matter what dispatch method I use, canines just want to bleed. However, once they have drip dried for an hour or so, I slide them on a stretcher fur side out and blow the water out of their fur real good, then flesh them. After fleshing, I toss in the tumbler for 10 minutes or so. I then put them on the stretcher fur out, and blow them off really good and hang to dry.
The high pressure system works on grey fox as well so I don't usually wash them.

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166652
02/02/21 07:50 PM
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All my fur looks like these-never washed,natural oils still in the fur providing the sheen.


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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166658
02/02/21 07:56 PM
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Boco --

Those are all beautiful, well handled. One problem I experience that you probably don't is my animals roll around in dirt, sand and dust for a couple days (assuming they were clean before they got caught). After washing my coyotes in a tub, there will sometimes be a half inch (sorry, don't know how to convert that to metric) of silt at the bottom of the tub. Same with grey fox. My fur looks pristine until you wash them and look at what they leave behind.

And I've heard Nancy express her concerns about natural oils and luster before, but realize the first thing a garment maker will do is drown your fur in a bath of acid and salt. If that doesn't take the luster/oils away, I don't think my gentle wash with pet shampoo (designed to retain natural oils) is going to hurt them.

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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7166687
02/02/21 08:25 PM
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Your fur looks great Lazarus,just trying to say not all dirty fur needs to go thru the labour intensity of washing.
Beaver and wolves are filthy animals especially the timber wolves.They get the dry wash and turn out clean as a whistle.
All the stuff at the bottom of your washtub is the same stuff as the fine dirty dust that gets blown out of beaver and wolves in clouds with my shop vac.
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Some fine furs like sable and the heavy lynx and fox only have the leather dressed-the fur does not get wetted at all-it can cause them to matt irreversibly.

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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7167351
02/03/21 11:02 AM
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I take mine to "TRACTOR SUPPLY" you can wash them for a small fee and they have a leash holder and everything

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7170705
02/05/21 10:37 PM
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I think it is note worthy to mention that it really matters when an animal is caught as to how dirty they are and whether they were caught with foot holds or snares. I trap almost all foot holds for the month of November and the ground is usually not froze except for the last week or so. Those coyotes dig and roll in the dirt plenty and washing makes a huge difference. Not to mention if we get a little rain. Coyotes caught after the ground is frozen or caught in snares are typically pretty clean. My point is that guys who snare in Canada probably won't have as much issues with dirty coyotes as a guy who footholds in say Kansas.


I wash all my coyotes and badgers and like others have said, look at a coyote that you think is clean and run a 5 gallon pail of water and slosh them around for a couple minutes and see how dirty the water looks. I didnt take pictures but i washed half of my coyotes (about 15 out of 30) a couple years ago and a blind man could have sorted them out no problem. Washed every one ever since. I don't waste the time and effort on a red fox unless they somehow get all bloody. It should be noted that I dispatch without a gun so no blood.

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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7170750
02/05/21 11:07 PM
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If my fur shed was heated year around I'd have an old washing machine in there and wash all coyotes, as is, its a real pain to wash them in a tub or bucket and try to get them rinsed out good so I usually just tumble them and brush them out unless they are really soaked in blood or mud. Then again it wouldn't make a lot of money difference since most of our coyotes aren't worth much on their best days.

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: ~ADC~] #7170812
02/05/21 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
If my fur shed was heated year around I'd have an old washing machine in there and wash all coyotes, as is, its a real pain to wash them in a tub or bucket and try to get them rinsed out good so I usually just tumble them and brush them out unless they are really soaked in blood or mud. Then again it wouldn't make a lot of money difference since most of our coyotes aren't worth much on their best days.


That's the decider ADC. If you're set up with running water in a heated fur shed washing and drying is less effort than those other methods and produces a very nice end product. But if you're carrying water and sloshing them around outside in buckets it can be a real pain. I've been there. Now mine all get washed in the old Maytag, pulled through the ringer, hung overnight and air tumbled in the dryer.

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7175380
02/09/21 04:27 PM
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I wash mine in a old maytag washer with a side spin unit. I wash with woolite first and then wash with downy second. I flesh before I wash. I like the looks and they smell much better as well. Fur buyer liked them also


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Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7175403
02/09/21 04:45 PM
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So guys...a skinned coyote brings more money then a carcass coyote...and a finished coyote brings more money then a skinned coyote. I know a washed coyote looks fantastic, no denying it, but do they actually bring more money? Or are you just doing one more step for the buyer?

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7175420
02/09/21 05:01 PM
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Buyers are paying on their perception of what the fur looks like. Theres no denying the washed furs shown here look better than a normal coyote, it only stands to reason that it should help more often than not. But it would surely be tough to put a real number to it.

Re: Washing Coyotes [Re: kinley31] #7175499
02/09/21 06:19 PM
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I find it to be a waste of time and effort as any dust/dirt in the fur from the animals day to day activities that can’t be easily blown out with a shop vac after they are boarded fur out, the auction house will remove it in their drumming process. As far as blood stains go, they are easily taken care of with minimal hand washing of heavy clots and then with borax after the pelt has been boarded and dried. As well as removing blood stains the borax also cleans and brightens the fur.
As previously stated, the drumming process will further clean the fur and bring out some luster to it. And again I have never seen where washing gave me a better price as I most always do better than the sale average.


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