Re: John Deere guys?
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I would use the Napa brand coolant and the additive.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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02/03/21 05:54 AM
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IMO, there are SOME applications that are worth spending extra money for good stuff. Motor oil and lubricants, for example, or bearings and other moving parts. Coolant? It just transfers heat. It could be water for goodness sake, if you weren't in freezing climate. In that case it's just water and an anti-freeze. What magic ingredient could JD possibly be putting in it? Unless you have significant problems with overheating, I would run the cheap stuff and use additives if necessary.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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I believe newer coolant has electrolytes in it to help slow down the corrosion process. Or something like that. Someone more knowledgeable than me might know more about it. I'd drain the old stuff immediately and flush the system, then replace with new.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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02/03/21 07:47 AM
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I believe newer coolant has electrolytes in it to help slow down the corrosion process. Or something like that. Someone more knowledgeable than me might know more about it. I'd drain the old stuff immediately and flush the system, then replace with new. I'd have to agree with Gary, I run the JD coolant, in my work boat, I have a Newer 9 liter 6090 John Deere. I do notice it is a much cleaner coolant as far as any film or crust build up around the neck and cap That I use to get on my old motor and different coolant.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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It took 14 years for the green coolant to corrode the cylinder walls of my 2001 7.3 powerstroke. His tractor is probably a late 60’s early 70’s model. I don’t think putting the expensive antifreeze in it at this point is going to save it. There is probably not anything wrong with it. I would lean more toward distilled water with water lever anitifreeze he wants. A good additive will help. I think vehicle manufacturers today are not making there blocks with a hood ratio of precious metals. Ford/international wouldn’t cover any of the blocks that were junk because of the coolant cavatation. They blamed it on not using the correct antifreeze. How come no other manufacture put out a statement about using a certain kind of antifreeze in a motor. At that time there was no other manufacture of a Diesel engine that required a certain antifreeze. Ford/international knew they put out a inferior block they just wasn’t going to foot the bill for it.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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Because the lady at the conference doing the study worked at Ford. Not at the other manufacturers. And the issue wasn't with cylinder walls. The issue was with alum radiators and using the wrong coolant causing leaks. P.S. - The John Deere guys on here saying to use John Deere coolant are saying the same thing that I am. All coolant isn't the same. It took 14 years for the green coolant to corrode the cylinder walls of my 2001 7.3 powerstroke. His tractor is probably a late 60’s early 70’s model. I don’t think putting the expensive antifreeze in it at this point is going to save it. There is probably not anything wrong with it. I would lean more toward distilled water with water lever anitifreeze he wants. A good additive will help. I think vehicle manufacturers today are not making there blocks with a hood ratio of precious metals. Ford/international wouldn’t cover any of the blocks that were junk because of the coolant cavatation. They blamed it on not using the correct antifreeze. How come no other manufacture put out a statement about using a certain kind of antifreeze in a motor. At that time there was no other manufacture of a Diesel engine that required a certain antifreeze. Ford/international knew they put out a inferior block they just wasn’t going to foot the bill for it.
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Re: John Deere guys?
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Wharton nailed it. I worked as a Deere tech years ago. Without an electrolytic neutralizer in the coolant, static electricity makes tiny bubbles that land on the outside of cylinder sleeves and pop. Over time, it will make a crater, and pierce the liner, putting water into the crankcase. You can use the Deere, or NAPA makes a product called NAPA kool. On case ih we plumb them for a coolant conditioning filter. If you have a wet sleeve diesel (you do) doing none of the above is begging for an engine overhaul. 25 yrs farming-diesel mechanic, trust me
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