Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: bfisch]
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02/04/21 06:51 PM
02/04/21 06:51 PM
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Oh Snap
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Oh Snap
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Snares on trails, no bait or lure work well for me.They are known to use the same trails year after year. Pick your area on game trails.
I have had them return to their kill sites for years. Don’t snare too close to the kill, they come in too cautious. They don’t know is a gulo or bear are on the site. I snare trails to their kills a 1/4 mile away or so, when they are in a line coming into kill before they split up! You can also do the opposite of what I said....I do that also!
Last edited by Oh Snap; 02/04/21 06:57 PM.
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Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: bfisch]
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02/04/21 07:40 PM
02/04/21 07:40 PM
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Jurassic Park
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This year at every bait pile that I set where I had wolves last year not one wolf showed up to it. Every other bait pile I set which was at a new location had wolves show up.
Next year I’m not setting any bait piles. Done with that!
Cold as ice!
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Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: bfisch]
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02/05/21 12:41 AM
02/05/21 12:41 AM
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Posts: 223 Chicken, Alaska
Chickenminer
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Also, have you noticed any characteristic differences in behavior between small packs (2-7 and big packs (10+)?
Wolves are fascinating critters. You'll find a wide variety of behavioral habits depending on your area. I have been trapping the same country for 45 years. In that time I have noticed small packs tend to be much more skittish. They are more likely to exit the trail and go around every marten set or piece of flagging. While large packs are much bolder and there will be members that investigate every marten of lynx set. Maybe the pups/younger ones ? Wolves like to travel the same drainages. If you ding one or two on their pass through your trail, they may change their route slightly but I have found they will still use the same drainage. Nothing is set in stone though. I once worked on a pack of 7-8 and for three checks in a row ( week apart) I caught a wolf in the same set, same trap, each time they came through they used my trail. I personally never use bait unless I am fortunate to run across a wolf kill, then I will set all the trails around that kill. Otherwise all I use are pee post sets and trail sets.
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Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: bfisch]
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02/05/21 03:53 AM
02/05/21 03:53 AM
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Ryan McLeod
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wolves hit the same stretches of river out my way year to year. Same locations get pee posts usually within 50 feet of previous years depending on logs the high water left in spring time. If I catch a wolf I usually reset about 8-10 feet away cause the wolves will hang back a little the next time through after seeing a pack member caught before. I also had 2-3 years where they stayed away. Tracks were rare and usually a loner. This came after 2 really good years in the same area. I don’t think I’ve ever caught a wolf in timber or willows. It’s always on the open rivers
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: bfisch]
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02/05/21 12:35 PM
02/05/21 12:35 PM
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white17
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When wolves avoid a certain area, bait, or smell, have you been able to connect with them knowing they were going to avoid those things. Basically, using the knowledge that they were going to avoid something to funnel them to additional sets. I have an area they are avoiding by going around in the willows away from the sets. I don't feel comfortable setting snares there because there is too much moose activity.
Hankit- Sounds like those wolves are well conditioned to visit your site.
white17- 10 years is a long time! The pack must have started the habit and habits die hard! A friend and I took 18 (from 3 different packs) within a 2 square mile radius last winter and I wonder how much that is affecting this season other than less wolves.
SE.Current- If you take a year off from bait and lure do they seem to work again the following year?
Also, have you noticed any characteristic differences in behavior between small packs (2-7 and big packs (10+)? For sure I would not set snares in willow patches. Different characteristics : just to generalize a bit. I think the one thing you could safely say is that the larger the pack, the more hungry each member is.
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Re: Wolf Questions
[Re: white17]
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02/05/21 01:56 PM
02/05/21 01:56 PM
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badgerboy14
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I think both things are true. I will re-set certain spots every year.
But around 2000-01 I took 17 wolves on a quarter mile stretch of river. For at least the next 10 years, all wolves traveling the river, would go into the trees and circle that specific area before coming back to the river When wolves avoid a certain area, bait, or smell, have you been able to connect with them knowing they were going to avoid those things. Basically, using the knowledge that they were going to avoid something to funnel them to additional sets. I have an area they are avoiding by going around in the willows away from the sets. I don't feel comfortable setting snares there because there is too much moose activity.
Hankit- Sounds like those wolves are well conditioned to visit your site.
white17- 10 years is a long time! The pack must have started the habit and habits die hard! A friend and I took 18 (from 3 different packs) within a 2 square mile radius last winter and I wonder how much that is affecting this season other than less wolves.
SE.Current- If you take a year off from bait and lure do they seem to work again the following year?
Also, have you noticed any characteristic differences in behavior between small packs (2-7 and big packs (10+)? For sure I would not set snares in willow patches. Different characteristics : just to generalize a bit. I think the one thing you could safely say is that the larger the pack, the more hungry each member is. Both of these are spot on for me. I worked on the same pack of wolves for 8 years, picking off 1-3 wolves each year. Prior to last year, they would avoid every spot I had caught one previously..........including pee post, blind trail sets, and my original bait pile spot. I got 5 out of 6 last year and the new pack that has moved in over the summer has no problem using the old pee posts the prior pack started avoiding. I have to avoid most willow and alder patches due to moose activity. I usually trail them back into the woods further out of the those moose browse areas if I'm going to try a snare.
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