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Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: Ghost14] #6614889 09/11/19 11:51 PM 09/11/19 11:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	Ghost, that pan looks perfect. I don't take my bevel all the way to the corner of the 90. I leave a very small section right at the 90, flat. That gives the tab that is welded onto the jaw, something to consistently grab ahold of. Here's a tip. As you are filing, constantly check your work by painting it with a black Sharpie. That way you can gauge how much, and where you still need to file to keep everything flat and square. Gary, all mine have brass washers already on the pan bolts. He must have started adding them since you bought yours. I still have all my 550's, and Bridger full mod dogless', but am really looking forward to getting these in the ground. Last edited by yukonal; 09/11/19 11:52 PM.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6615301 09/12/19 02:37 PM 09/12/19 02:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2019 GA G Ghost14 trapper
Ghost14 trapper G Joined: Sep 2019 GA	That’s exactly how I did mine Yukonal. That Black coating acts as the black sharpie. I would say 4-5 rasps with the file was all I needed to bevel back and leave maybe a 1/16 ledge. They went from 4+ before to right at 3 pounds on all 6. Absolutely no pan creep now. I Dipped them in Full Metal Jacket and they are now running about 2 1/2 to just shy of 3 pounds every snap without adding bow string wax or anything. I prefer dye and wax but wanted to FMJ them since they had that great coating already. I am excited to set them as well, they are all I was hoping they would be and if a man is unhappy with these traps I don’t think anything could make him happy!

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6615467 09/12/19 07:23 PM 09/12/19 07:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	Agreed on all counts. I just finished my 2 dozen this afternoon. Hopefully wax tomorrow. I'll be curious to see how much they change after wax. With the shelf, you can always flatten it a little if the tension drops. But...I adjusted all mine with a loose pan. The pan bolt will fine tune the tension nicely. Just for the heck of it, on several that I had at 2-1/2#, I tightened the pan bolt a little at a time, and I was able to get whatever I wanted. Done deal. Probably be ordering 2 or 3 dozen more.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: Flint Hill fur] #6615509 09/12/19 08:08 PM 09/12/19 08:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota D dustytinner trapper
dustytinner trapper D Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota	Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur Originally Posted by dustytinner What I did was took a file and filed the pan engagement point or contact area (where the night latch spot is) and file a slight ramp or angle upward towards the top of the pan. A few strokes and check it. Repeat. It is a little time consuming but after a few or 3 you will know about how many strokes according to your amount of pressure you put on the file before you need to check it. IF you over do one and it's to light just take and file it back towards a flat position, just do 1 lighter stroke and check it because it takes very little to get it back. The biggest advice I can give you is be patient and dont get too aggressive with the file right off the start. I did and the metal comes off fast ,luckily I was able to get it back where i wanted it. . Here is a picture sorry not the best on a phone. And the 2 files I used. I use the half round mostly. It's about 3/4 - 7/8 wide I also checked the poundage and it broke right at 3# on the Sullivan tester. I also use them 2# & 3# dumbbells you see "walkers" using. I put the tester right on the o of KO. Mho I bet you that pan dog might stay set a few times but the tension on those springs will bend or smear that lil dog off and your stuck with a trap that can't be set... My first Bridger dogless #3s had to be filed back near a 1/4 inch then I had to remake nightlatch notches. But I left way more meat. Probably half the thickness of the steel Yep I over did this one but that's the learning curve. Life member Minnesota Trappers Association FTA,Sportsmen's Alliance

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6615618 09/12/19 09:43 PM 09/12/19 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	Dusty, don't sweat it. When I ordered these 2 dozen, I ordered 3 extra pans, and a set of jaws...just in case I screwed something up. Now I'm going to use them to try a couple different mods that I think will be better, yet. Call Kara, at NO BS, and have her send you a couple spares. They are cheap, and easy to replace. You can just start over. Without a learning curve, we wouldn't learn.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6615652 09/12/19 10:27 PM 09/12/19 10:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Georgia D Doug66 trapper
Doug66 trapper D Joined: Aug 2010 Georgia	No problem with my 4 dozen. Had to level the pan on maybe 6 of them. Waxed them and scraped the excess off the pan latch. Just enough tension on the pan bolt to let the pan down slow instead of being floppy. I don't know exactly what the pan tension was but never had a track inside the jaws.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6616022 09/13/19 01:10 PM 09/13/19 01:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2017 KANSAS R redhillstrapper trapper
redhillstrapper trapper R Joined: Feb 2017 KANSAS	How do you guys that adjust your pan tension with the bolt and nut keep it consistent after a catches? Seems when I tried that after a catch i would find my pans getting stiff from mud/rust..ect or just floppy.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: redhillstrapper] #6616654 09/14/19 10:32 AM 09/14/19 10:32 AM
Joined: Apr 2012 Southern Michigan T trappergbus trapper
trappergbus trapper T Joined: Apr 2012 Southern Michigan	Add a #10 brass or stainless washer under the lock nut helps a bunch. Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6617212 09/14/19 10:04 PM 09/14/19 10:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	They just came out of wax. If they need it, I'll add some. Thanks for the tip!

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6617625 09/15/19 01:05 PM 09/15/19 01:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2014 Meridian , ID B Badgerman50 trapper
Badgerman50 trapper B Joined: Oct 2014 Meridian , ID	I was shown a different way to adjust the pan tension. I tried the bow string wax but it didn’t seem to help much. I was told to loosen the 7/16 nut holding pan to the frame and move the pan about an 1/8” towards the loose jaw then place a piece of wooden dowel rod under the part of the pan where it narrows and bend down to level it. I’ve been able to get it between 2.5 and 4 lbs on my first attempt and move them all to 3ish lbs with further adjustments. I like to stay away from a file if I can help it. Badgerman

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6617631 09/15/19 01:13 PM 09/15/19 01:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 nebraska S scheide trapper
scheide trapper S Joined: Feb 2011 nebraska	Badgerman, that's how I do mine.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6617861 09/15/19 07:12 PM 09/15/19 07:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	That sounds like a great fix. Is there any way you could share a pic or two? If posting is a pain for you, as it is for me, I'd be happy to give you my contact info, and you could send me some pics. I like the sounds of it...and I THINK I understand what you are describing. Thanks for sharing the idea. Would that be like MTP's take on bending the dog on 550's to get lighter tension? Last edited by yukonal; 09/15/19 07:14 PM.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6618001 09/15/19 09:21 PM 09/15/19 09:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Eastern PA H Hawks trapper
Hawks trapper H Joined: Sep 2012 Eastern PA	I run 10 dozen Jrs for Fox coyotes and bobcat. When 4 coiled the tension is a bit high for my liking since slot of my catch is red fox. I remove 1 coil and run them 3 coiled . Still plenty fast but but tension is right at about 2.5 pounds when waxed. Everyone is the same. I tried playing with the pan notch and filing angles. Gave up after screwed up a few. Removing a coil was easier and it works. Do something worthwhile, take a kid trapping

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #6618056 09/15/19 09:59 PM 09/15/19 09:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2016 Mt. USA W woodchip trapper
woodchip trapper W Joined: Jan 2016 Mt. USA	Hey Kendall why not set these guys up on pan adjustments

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7180024 02/13/21 05:05 AM 02/13/21 05:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 trapper
Wolfdog91 trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Ttt YouTube expert "The bird of Hermes is my name , eating my wings to keep me tame"

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7180159 02/13/21 09:51 AM 02/13/21 09:51 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 MN Y yukonal OP trapper
yukonal OP trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 MN	Here's another tip that has really helped. After filing pan and or tab, smear a small dab of bowstring wax on it/them...and hit it with a butane torch to just barely melt the wax. Protects the bare metal, and really finishes the work. One other thing I did was narrow the dog engagement tab down to slightly over 3/8" wide on the mill.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7180783 02/13/21 06:07 PM 02/13/21 06:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Republic of CO Cootswatter trapper
Cootswatter trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Republic of CO	Except for a bit of bowstring wax on the point of contact, I've haven't had to do anything to these amazing traps. Work every time. I feel you are the kind of guy that would complain about being hung with a new rope. "I've come to chew bubble gum and to kick ars, and I'm all out of bubble gum." - Rowdy Roddy Piper - They Live

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7185813 02/17/21 12:59 AM 02/17/21 12:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Wisconsin	Wish I could convince myself to go out and get these traps. Like that they're 'tank proof'; but, heavy (and inconsistent) pan tensions have been an issue since they hit the market. Doesn't seem that a solution to the issue has been incorporated into the design by the maker yet. Would love to hand over my $$$ if pan tension can be consistently demonstrated and reviewed to be between 2 1/4 - 3 1/4 lbs as supplied from the manufacture. Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of U.P. Trappers Member of NTA Member of FTA

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7186992 02/17/21 09:02 PM 02/17/21 09:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2021 Minnesota MNEric trapper
MNEric trapper Joined: Jan 2021 Minnesota	I just got my first dozen of jrs on the trap shed. Very impressive looking trap. When I lifted the box I thought I might have got 2 dozen. Was surprised on the pan tension on a few of the them. I had no tester so I ordered one. First trap snapped at 2 1/2 pounds. Second at 3. Then it went downhill or uphill from three. Tester bottomed out. I will work on them tomorrow. I will take some advice for the comments above.

Re: Working On A Couple Dozen K9 Jr.s [Re: yukonal] #7187017 02/17/21 09:12 PM 02/17/21 09:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota D dustytinner trapper
dustytinner trapper D Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota	A 3# dumbbell for $4-$5 from Walmart works great for a tester too! Life member Minnesota Trappers Association FTA,Sportsmen's Alliance

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