Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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atrapper, you're right on about MilleLacs. It's all politics, not science. I blame the Indians with their netting. But, the DNR's mismanagement of the lake is just as bad.
About 10 years or so ago, I spoke to one of the fisheries managers about how they were managing the lake. He told me not to be surprised if eventually MilleLacs would become a catch & release lake. And that the goal also was to make MilleLacs a trophy lake. I feel that's still the DNR's goal. I told this same person that resorts will be hurting financially if they go through with this plan. His comment was, 'We know there are going to be casualties."
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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Maybe our DNR could take some lessons from the Dakotas DNR. Take Devil's Lake as an example. A friend of mine doesn't even buy a MN fishing license. He does all his fishing in Devil's Lake with his wife. Limit is 5 per person, any size. He and his wife go for a weekend. They come home with their possession limit of 10 each almost whenever they go. They've been doing this for about 20 years according to him.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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Maybe our DNR could take some lessons from the Dakotas DNR. Take Devil's Lake as an example. A friend of mine doesn't even buy a MN fishing license. He does all his fishing in Devil's Lake with his wife. Limit is 5 per person, any size. He and his wife go for a weekend. They come home with their possession limit of 10 each almost whenever they go. They've been doing this for about 20 years according to him. How does that work with your possession limit being your freezer limit, do you think if the MNDNR searched his freezer he be in hot water? The idea that your daily possession limit is your freezer limit is ridiculous too me.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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Maybe our DNR could take some lessons from the Dakotas DNR. Take Devil's Lake as an example. A friend of mine doesn't even buy a MN fishing license. He does all his fishing in Devil's Lake with his wife. Limit is 5 per person, any size. He and his wife go for a weekend. They come home with their possession limit of 10 each almost whenever they go. They've been doing this for about 20 years according to him. How does that work with your possession limit being your freezer limit, do you think if the MNDNR searched his freezer he be in hot water? The idea that your daily possession limit is your freezer limit is ridiculous too me. I've often wondered about that too, Grumley. No different with waterfowl, etc. that may cross state lines. How would the DNR truly know where they came from? My guess is that they would do some digging to find trip dates, hotels/resorts you stayed at, and the whole jazz to figure out if the game came from out of state or not. In the end they really wouldn't have any way of truly knowing though.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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Interesting information about Mille Lacs, Trapper 7. I have a hard time understanding why the DNR would feel such an obligation to mess with a lake like Mille Lacs. It certainly has appeared to have turned into a trophy small mouth, muskie, and to an extent walleye lake. Maybe they feel that would appeal to a different crowd? I feel sorry for the resort owners and even cabin owners in that area. They've sure been jerked around for a long time with few answers and a lot of unknowns about the future of the lake. You forgot to mention the northern pike as a trophy. That seems to be the case for this species as well since the protected slot is 30-40 inches and one over 40 inches. When we first bought our place on the lake, we bought it for the great perch fishing the lake had. With the DNR's protection for the large predators, the perch population is very low. Not many perch grow to be large enough to make for a sizable harvest.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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With all the hunting and fishing rule changes, it's looking like they are making it more difficult for a person to harvest his own food. Pretty soon it will all have to be bought and all game will be owned by the government only.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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You're right, Trapper 7. It was netting that seemed to have thrown off the balance in Upper Red in the late 90's. Now after the walleye demise, crappie boom, crappie demise, and walleye boom, they seem to have the numbers figured out. Seeing a success story like Red and then looking at what's been happening on Mille Lacs for so long really has to make a person wonder what's going on? There appears to be much more politics than science happening on Mille Lacs.
Spot on Seven. Lake of the Woods is an interesting study as well. The resort owners could see the writing on the wall with the amount of fishing pressure happening in the last decade or two and understood that they needed to reduce limits. I have to assume that they will adjust those limits again sooner than later with the amount of pressure that LOW gets. Thank goodness for the Canadian side of LOW replenishing our side of the lake or I think the resort industry would have been in a world of hurt long ago. I'm always amazed at the number of houses or boats out on the water on any given day, the amount of fish taken out daily, and the amount of fishing that the lake continues to have. It's truly a walleye factory. If the resort owners could see.tje writing on the wall maybe they should look in the mirror instead of on the wall.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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You're right, Trapper 7. It was netting that seemed to have thrown off the balance in Upper Red in the late 90's. Now after the walleye demise, crappie boom, crappie demise, and walleye boom, they seem to have the numbers figured out. Seeing a success story like Red and then looking at what's been happening on Mille Lacs for so long really has to make a person wonder what's going on? There appears to be much more politics than science happening on Mille Lacs.
Spot on Seven. Lake of the Woods is an interesting study as well. The resort owners could see the writing on the wall with the amount of fishing pressure happening in the last decade or two and understood that they needed to reduce limits. I have to assume that they will adjust those limits again sooner than later with the amount of pressure that LOW gets. Thank goodness for the Canadian side of LOW replenishing our side of the lake or I think the resort industry would have been in a world of hurt long ago. I'm always amazed at the number of houses or boats out on the water on any given day, the amount of fish taken out daily, and the amount of fishing that the lake continues to have. It's truly a walleye factory. If the resort owners could see.tje writing on the wall maybe they should look in the mirror instead of on the wall.That's a bingo!,...I think it's better now,.at least hope so.
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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I remember Millacs and the Upper Red in the hey day. Upper Red has been on the mend. Over Harvesting was the reason. MN DNR botched Millacs with there ridiculous regulations. Not based on science. Based on politics. Still lots of walleye fishing in MN. But a 4 limit state wide is not necessary at all. Bingo, we have a winner!
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Re: MNDNR Walleye bag limit
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You're right, Trapper 7. It was netting that seemed to have thrown off the balance in Upper Red in the late 90's. Now after the walleye demise, crappie boom, crappie demise, and walleye boom, they seem to have the numbers figured out. Seeing a success story like Red and then looking at what's been happening on Mille Lacs for so long really has to make a person wonder what's going on? There appears to be much more politics than science happening on Mille Lacs.
Spot on Seven. Lake of the Woods is an interesting study as well. The resort owners could see the writing on the wall with the amount of fishing pressure happening in the last decade or two and understood that they needed to reduce limits. I have to assume that they will adjust those limits again sooner than later with the amount of pressure that LOW gets. Thank goodness for the Canadian side of LOW replenishing our side of the lake or I think the resort industry would have been in a world of hurt long ago. I'm always amazed at the number of houses or boats out on the water on any given day, the amount of fish taken out daily, and the amount of fishing that the lake continues to have. It's truly a walleye factory. Walleye factory indeed. Walleye are a renewable resource. It is no coincidence that heavily fished walleye populations continue to produce frequent strong year classes to replenish the population. There is no need for a statewide four fish limit.
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