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Perception is weird #7218964
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Ok, so this is not trapping related at all but in school I'm kinda studying perception. Such as color is our perception of the reflection of the suns light. Or that a tree is simply a tree because of how we perceive it, for instance a man would not be wrong to say that a tree is actually a bookcase lacking form because that's how he perceived it. Obviously this is over simplied, but I think it should get the point across.
Like the word cat, means a small mammal to you, but to a French men who speaks no English it means nothing because of how he perceives it. Ig idk, its making my head swim, but in this study I'm reading they are making the point that the characters in a book are what they are because of how they are perceived, and when we close the cover of a book and forget the characters they cease to exist. Someone else who's read the book will have the characters in their mind, but they aren't the same, they're perceived differently.
And this thing is saying that reality is a sham, its not real. Its perceived. Anyway there isn't really a point to this post my head was just swimming and it helps to type it out.





Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7218969
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In books I always assign voices to the characters as well as how I think they would look. This is why when se see movies made of books we read they never meet our expectations.

Dances with Wolves is the closest a movie came to matching my vision as I read it

Mike


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Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7218980
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This is how they form liberal thinking.


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Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7218989
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Is perception why there are now no wrong answers in math?

Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7218991
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Some men perceive themselves as wimmen.......and verse visa........


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Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7219002
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Most books I’ve read that have been made into movies “generally” picks an actor to match the character in my head.
I guess perception is also learned because when you said cat, well I thought of a cat. Of course right now I thought of a bobcat, but still a cat. I really don’t see how someone not knowing the meaning of a word creates me as having perceived something different than what they perceive it as.

And for the record, I’ve never perceived a tree as a bookcase, but that’s because I’m not into wood working. I have perceived a young doe as nothing but backstraps on a grill before...or is that imagining?

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Sign yourself up for a good wood shop or auto mechanics class. Dont waste the precious time you get in public school. It will soon be over and you will have to pay for knowledge you could have gotten on the taxpayer dime.

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Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7219013
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Yup teach someone perception is the only truth and reality is a farce. It makes it easy to see why you can't argue your point anymore. "My perception is reality"... sorry but no. The tree is a tree cause that's what it is. Add some labor and trade that labor for more labor and that tree could be a bookshelf but in reality it's only a tree right now.

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Doesn't really matter the language a cat is a cat. The word cat may not have meaning to a Frenchman but he would know a cat if he saw one.

The characters in the book will always be in the book and they are imagined by the reader. That is the whole point of book clubs. To discuss each other's perceptions of the book.

Sounds like the paper you are reading may be trying to lead you down false paths based on an incomplete understanding of the world or limited knowledge of reality.


But that's just my perception. laugh


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Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7219022
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Think I’ll no longer read after this post. I like my perception of reality.
If reality is a sham and only perceived...quit paying taxes and see how quick you come back to reality. Or better yet, next time driving just ignore the speed limit through town...another quick reality check.

Re: Perception is weird [Re: cowboy2005] #7219032
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Perception is only that which the mind has learned, taught, experienced, seen, or imagined . . . and those factors generally constitute why the mind can be confused as to reality. . . . sorry guys, it's been one of those days . . . or maybe even daze?
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She has funny ears if she's sideways.

Cowboy, is this a high school class or college class?


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Neither...nose and ears don’t match up

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Point taken!


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Faces or Vase? [Linked Image]


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Re: Perception is weird [Re: SJA] #7219084
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Originally Posted by SJA
Faces or Vase? [Linked Image]


Can be both. It's trick played on the eyes and mind, not perception.

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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
Originally Posted by SJA
Faces or Vase? [Linked Image]


Can be both. It's trick played on the eyes and mind, not perception.

No, it is what the viewer perceives in their thought process. That's where the "minds eye" confusion plays in.


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There you have it, confusion not perception.

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It's colored schemed in the proper way to confuse the brain. Watch brain games if you want to get an educated answer.

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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
The you have it, confusion not perception.

You are proving my point. Your perception of the picture and scenario is different than mine. Ergo, perception of thought by the viewer. :-)


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I see both so what does that say?

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