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I wuz wrong! #7226873
03/26/21 04:23 AM
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For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226874
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WE told you so, James???????
Now, as long as you get on that TRUMP train, we'll start inviting you to the weekly TM cookouts!


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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226875
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Fair question to offer at this juncture, James.

What it your plan of action from here?


"My feeling is this, give him plenty of time, plenty of birds, and a little direction, and he'll hunt his heart out for me. That's all I ask."
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226877
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But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric


I thought you just couldn't take Trumps arrogance and childish way of speaking about opponents. I don't know how anyone could hear Biden speak and think he wasn't serious about disarming the public.

I can't say I told you so as I thought you knew


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226878
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You may be eventually be forgiven by the T-man family, but, we will never forget. Now, put your pen to work and lets get this arse out of office. Sarge


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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226879
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Yeah, that's a fair question. I don't know what to do from here.

My prior idea of sending donations to gun and trapping groups has been mocked.

I won't jump on the Trump train, but am open to reasonable suggestions.

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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226880
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You'd have to have a gen-u-wine come-to-Jesus experience before I'd trust you. That's just me.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226881
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Trust me with what? Your sister? Your best hunting dog?

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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226882
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My country.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226883
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It's OUR country, and I wouldn't want the responsibility of looking out for it on my own.

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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226884
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Your vision for this country and my vision are not at all compatible. The judgement you've displayed so far keeps me from taking you seriously.

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Maybe our visions aren't compatible, but mine is more realistic than yours.

You try to hold back change, which is inevitable.

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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226894
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your only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226904
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JMO but I think we need all of us pulling together to fight against these attacks on the 2A. As to how we get it done when the DEMS have no interest in listening to opposing views and a Media with the same agenda. Perhaps nation wide large ( as large as we can get ) protest.


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As Rodney Dangerfield once said; Cash is real satisfying. Why don't you back up what you're ars was peddling a few months ago counselor? A substantial donation to the T-Man fund would be a good start. You're already trying to lay ground work to worm your way out of what you said you would do. You appear to be a real life Judge Smells

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: vermontster] #7226917
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Originally Posted by vermontster
JMO but I think we need all of us pulling together to fight against these attacks on the 2A. As to how we get it done when the DEMS have no interest in listening to opposing views and a Media with the same agenda. Perhaps nation wide large ( as large as we can get ) protest.


I've tried that. NJ dems wrapped 21 anti-gun laws into one giant anti gun omnibus bill a few years ago. Thousands of us attended the committee hearing on the bill. The dems had bused in the Newtown CT families and they got about 25 seats in the front of the hearing room. We filled the remaining 130 seats, overflowed into a second 150 seat hearing room where they set up a big TV to watch the main hearing room, and we had 2 or 3 thousand people standing outside the state building in the rain.

Dozens of us spoke at the hearing. The demonstration was overwhelming. We outnumbered those in favor of the bill by 100 to 1 or more.

At the end of the long day, the committee voted unanimously in favor of the bill.

They don't care what we think because they know we aren't voting for them anyway.


-Ryan
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Jump James Jump. Enough to be fatal
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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226926
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You are seriously claiming you didn't believe Joe's intentions. Not buying it.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226929
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Originally Posted by James
My prior idea of sending donations to gun and trapping groups has been mocked. Jim


it's been mocked because it was a stupid/foolish attempt to buy your "indulgences" and assuage your own guilt; for what you KNEW was a stab in the back to Freedom.

I will give you some credit...I didn't think you had it IN you to admit you were wrong.


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
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Originally Posted by James
Yeah, that's a fair question. I don't know what to do from here.

My prior idea of sending donations to gun and trapping groups has been mocked.

I won't jump on the Trump train, but am open to reasonable suggestions.

Jim


Maybe some self introspection on just why you choose to believe lies?

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Originally Posted by Posco
You'd have to have a gen-u-wine come-to-Jesus experience before I'd trust you. That's just me.


Literally

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Originally Posted by James
Maybe our visions aren't compatible, but mine is more realistic than yours. Jim


it wasn't "realistic" for a bunch of farmers and peddlers to win a war against the World's Super Power.

but they DID.

and now, you're pissing away the Freedoms they won.


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: Bryan Daigle] #7226940
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Originally Posted by Bryan Daigle
Jump James Jump.


How high?

Jim


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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7226941
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I'm glad I can't see the foolish dribble this troll posts (unless you guys quote him) but let me see if I get the gist of it

Despite "extensive research and critical decision-making" the troll didn't think Biden really was anti-gun but has now come to the conclusion that he is. And he's now sorry he voted for him. What say fellas, forgive me?

Does that about sum it up?


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by James
Yeah, that's a fair question. I don't know what to do from here.

My prior idea of sending donations to gun and trapping groups has been mocked.

I won't jump on the Trump train, but am open to reasonable suggestions.

Jim


Maybe some self introspection on just why you choose to believe lies?


What lies are you talking about?

I made an error in judgment, that's all. I thought Biden had more important issues, like health care, to address.

Jim


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Disarming the public will help with their government health care plan.

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Don't sweat it James....Every village has to have an idiot. grin


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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I'm glad I can't see the foolish dribble this troll posts (unless you guys quote him) but let me see if I get the gist of it

Despite "extensive research and critical decision-making" the troll didn't think Biden really was anti-gun but has now come to the conclusion that he is. And he's now sorry he voted for him. What say fellas, forgive me?

Does that about sum it up?


Yup

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the "funny" thing is...it's NOT just Biden, is it James???

almost ALL of the Democratic Party will vote for the gun control bills...no matter HOW draconian.


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I wonder if "Mr. Open-Minded, Willing to Consider All Sides" has removed me from his ignore list...


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
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Again, why don't you back up what you said you would do Judge Smells? 4 or 5 figure check would be a good start.

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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
As Rodney Dangerfield once said; Cash is real satisfying. Why don't you back up what you're ars was peddling a few months ago counselor? A substantial donation to the T-Man fund would be a good start. You're already trying to lay ground work to worm your way out of what you said you would do. You appear to be a real life Judge Smells


What the heck are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by James
I made an error in judgment, that's all. Jim


he TOLD you on NUMEROUS occasions, that he was anti-Second Amendment.

and he/Democrats have a LONG history of implementing gun control.

no, James; you didn't make an error in judgment...you purposely chose to ignore the EVIDENCE.

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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
Again, why don't you back up what you said you would do Judge Smells? 4 or 5 figure check would be a good start.


You just made that up. I didn't offer anyone a four or five-figure check.

I wish people would lay off the sauce when they post.

Jim

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so, where is your post calling Biden out for his assault on the Constitution?

I still don't see the vitriol towards Biden that you spewed at Trump for his alleged infractions...


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I dont buy any of what your spewing ,Your still a Dem and you are all the problem Guns, Health care ,border Foreign policy ruined in 60 days .Never gonna forget or forgive !


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You were mocked about sending money to pro gun groups because most of us did not believe you were sincere. I still don't.

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Most of the time when gun owners vote for Dems. they believe the Republicans will stop them from any new gun laws. This is not one of those cases, there is no one left guarding the gate. If the filibuster goes, the country is doomed.

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We all have our hot buttons, those issues that weigh more than any other when choosing a candidate in an election. For many of us it's the 2nd amendment because it goes to the core of the freedoms guaranteed by the US Constitition. It is apparent that although the 2nd amendment is important to you, it is not one of your hot buttons when you pick a candidate. Democrat polititians in the US HOR and Senate to a person support additional gun control measures knowing it will do nothing to stop crime. The data is overwhelming but completely ignored because it doesn't fit their agenda of disarming the populace. With regard to the 2nd amendment, the outcome of electing Democrats has been unchanged since the late 1960s or perhaps before. I don't know what you should do other than to start following your on advice with regard to candidate selection and do the "independent research and critical examination" you spoke about. You talk the talk, it's time to walk the walk.

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I won't kick a guy when they omit a mistake. All we can do at this point is share our views with others in a positive way, lobby our elected officials at every level and be very particular about who we vote for in the future at every level. The courts will be the next battle ground but I'm losing faith in them. After that it will be up to states to stand up to unconstitutional laws. After that only two choices, fight or comply. Up to this point with the possible exception of the last election the government is chosen by the people and therefore they are accountable for what is happening. I don't see much hope in the values of the masses to change. People dying is not a concern of the left (look at abortion and the murders in some large cities) a person should really ask themselves why people that have armed security want to take guns from law abiding citizens. The picture looks pretty clear at this point to me but some will call it a conspiracy because they can't face the truth.

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As I stated above the picture seems very clear to me (I'd love to be wrong) and because of this I truly struggle with patience, understanding and humility with those who don't see what's happening.

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Originally Posted by James
I wouldn't want the responsibility of looking out for it on my own.

Jim


That makes at least two of us. You're either incredibly naive to miss all the warning signs 95% of the people here saw coming or you're as disingenuous as I've previously accused you being. I think disingenuous is closer to the truth.

I think the odds are much better than even that this country comes to blows with itself before this is over and I don't think that's too far off of the horizon. We're just awaiting the trigger, all the words that need to be said have been spoken.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
As I stated above the picture seems very clear to me (I'd love to be wrong) and because of this I truly struggle with patience, understanding and humility with those who don't see what's happening.


He sees it and has known it all along.

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The more dependent we are on government the farther we move from a government by the people. And I don't see us moving away from government benefits (aka socialism).

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1 in the group cause you was a "lawyer" ...well, its people like you that's got us in the pit
we're in now. So swim in it...


Donnie

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Yes sir
As I stated above the picture seems very clear to me (I'd love to be wrong) and because of this I truly struggle with patience, understanding and humility with those who don't see what's happening.


He sees it and has known it all along.

I wouldn't try to debate you on that point but of he is sincere I'm ok with more on the pro gun side

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He is not sincere about it. Never has been, never will be.

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I'll also say that part of me struggles some with accepting what appears to be were this country is heading

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James,

Perhaps there is now an opportunity to leverage your law career, writing skills, and liberal view point in convincing other folks who learn to the left that the 2nd Amendment should be vigorously defended on both sides of the aisle?


"My feeling is this, give him plenty of time, plenty of birds, and a little direction, and he'll hunt his heart out for me. That's all I ask."
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So what is the purpose of this thread? James isn't going to become a republican. Seems like he is just wasting time and doing what democrats do best makeing people feel sorry for them till they get their way. It doesn't matter there is a bunch more like James that will never change. Fence ridding isn't good for any cause.

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Originally Posted by James
For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

Jim



Of course James was completely wrong on the 2A issue. And he made another mistake here--It's not enough to admit he was wrong. He must disclaim any dissenting view, swear loyalty to a failed leader, be outraged by the drama of the day and agree to never have another independent thought.


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BC...you and Jimmy are paddl'in the same boat...

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Although we may disagree on politics, it takes a lot of grit to admit you were wrong. Thank you for stepping up and actually admitting it.

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Originally Posted by Donnie H
BC...you and Jimmy are paddl'in the same boat...


Nope. I am just waiting for y'all to apologize to me for handing this country to Biden and the Democrats by enabling a bunch of idiots from 2016 to January 5, 2021
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james, even the wisest men of Germany fell for hitler,,,,,,belived in him...and found out too late they made a mistake and were made powerless..that's why we should seriously listen to those who've lived under those situtions,,,when they warn us whats cming.


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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by warrior

Maybe some self introspection on just why you choose to believe lies?


What lies are you talking about?

I made an error in judgment, that's all. I thought Biden had more important issues, like health care, to address.

Jim


So you still believe the democrat party to be a virtuous source of truth? More introspection for you.

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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
james, even the wisest men of Germany fell for hitler,,,,,,belived in him...and found out too late they made a mistake and were made powerless..that's why we should seriously listen to those who've lived under those situtions,,,when they warn us whats cming.


And many didn't and men like James were silent when the gestapo came for them.

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Nah, in a two party system he could have just voted for the party that supports America. You two narcissists like to ramble on and convince yourselves you are better or smarter than other people. I love this “new” catch phrase about anyone that supports or supported Trump was unable to think for themselves. Ironically “original”!

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Originally Posted by James
For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

Jim


lesson for the future , when someone tells you they are bad , reaffirms it repeatedly , don't pass it of as Rhetoric. as Rhetoric is as damaging as the real threat it is either a lie or a lie or it isn't rhetoric and it is the truth.

leaving you with two options your being lied to or your lying to yourself.

I know your coming from a place where you tell lies , are told lies or lie to yourself.

thanks for trying on the truth


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Originally Posted by Ghost14
Nah, in a two party system he could have just voted for the party that supports America. You two narcissists like to ramble on and convince yourselves you are better or smarter than other people. I love this “new” catch phrase about anyone that supports or supported Trump was unable to think for themselves. Ironically “original”!

Trump will go down as one of the most consequential presidents of all time. There's no doubt about it.

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MAGA !!!

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Any solution will be seen as “mocking” so the game goes on and on it’s never ending how can a donation to our supporters ever be a bad thing?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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James, how about we try again. Forget the introspection as it's apparent by now you lack that character trait.

Let's approach this from another angle. Just why does sniffin Joe want to take away ALL of your guns? Why would he lie about It? Why would his entire party want to? What is there core motivation for doing so?

If you can bring yourself to recognize and understand the absolute truth of why it'll scare the the living crap out of you and we can accept you as one of us.

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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
As Rodney Dangerfield once said; Cash is real satisfying. Why don't you back up what you're ars was peddling a few months ago counselor? A substantial donation to the T-Man fund would be a good start. You're already trying to lay ground work to worm your way out of what you said you would do. You appear to be a real life Judge Smells


What the heck are you talking about?

Jim
I'm talking about the movie Caddy Shack that Rodney Dangerfield starred in. You aught to watch it some time. If you think about the characters that are from all walks of life and all of them have their struggles in life to cope with, you fit Judge Smells character to a T in my opinion. Right down to welching on writing checks to trapper and 2-A supportive groups. You see Judge Smells was a blow gut worm that thought he was smarter than everyone else cause of who he was.

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Originally Posted by Donnie H
BC...you and Jimmy are paddl'in the same boat...

Paddlin On the same side .


Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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Originally Posted by Ghost14
Nah, in a two party system he could have just voted for the party that supports America. You two narcissists like to ramble on and convince yourselves you are better or smarter than other people. I love this “new” catch phrase about anyone that supports or supported Trump was unable to think for themselves. Ironically “original”!


I love it Ghost14!!!

I for one wasn’t thinking for myself, my decision was based on the future of my children and grandchildren. I’m doing just fine no matter who is in office.

It’s difficult to climb out of the world’s pits when there are only a handful of branches to grab. We need more branches (opportunities, for those smarter than the rest of us) over the pitfalls not less.

Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 03/26/21 09:48 AM.

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Originally Posted by Snowpa
Originally Posted by Donnie H
BC...you and Jimmy are paddl'in the same boat...

Paddlin On the same side .


lol


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This isn't Bidens idea. I'll tell you a story. I was a "young democrat" when I was in high school 1968. I was the president of the school chapter. I went to the state convention of the young democrats. The number one item on the platform was gun control.

I got an insight on how crooked the democrats were, you can be a "young" democrat until you are 35 years old. There were some state reps and senators present at the convention.

This one experience was enough to sour me on politics for a long time.

That's why I say this isn't Biden. Gun control has been on the democratic ticket for over 5 decades.

Like the meme said. Anybody that didn't realize that is a special kind of stupid.

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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by James
For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

Jim



Of course James was completely wrong on the 2A issue. And he made another mistake here--It's not enough to admit he was wrong. He must disclaim any dissenting view, swear loyalty to a failed leader, be outraged by the drama of the day and agree to never have another independent thought.





Good grief.

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James I wouldn’t go as light as to call that making an error in judgement. I think a down right F up is more along the right lines. However you acknowledged the fact you made the error which speaks a heck of a lot higher than most other democrap/liberal who will never admit they did wrong.

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Originally Posted by Donnie H
Well...bless his heart...not !!!
jimmy, you got what you wanted and now you want us to be there for you when
it really wouldn't what you thought it would be. You always think you are.the smartest
1 in the group cause you was a "lawyer" ...well, its people like you that's got us in the shitpit
we're in now. So swim in it...


Donnie

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Truly you should have known

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Originally Posted by James
For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

Jim

Purely Cognitive Dissonance on your part, that may be ingrained in your ability or lack thereof to think with critical thought. You assumed Biden was lying when he said he would go after guns?

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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Truly you should have known

Everyone else did


So did he.

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A man admits he is wrong and then the way some of you tore in to him. All I can say he looks like a better man than some.

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Originally Posted by James
Maybe our visions aren't compatible, but mine is more realistic than yours.

You try to hold back change, which is inevitable.

Jim


Who says change has to be a one way street? If you don't fight for what you believe you'll get ran over by those who do fight for their beliefs.

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James, while your views on things are not often the same as mine, I respect our right to have those views. As to this thread it is my view that it takes a good man to admit he was wrong, and an even bigger man to put that in print! Eric

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227173
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Not buying it. You are way to late. Words matter. MD

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Originally Posted by martyd
Not buying it. You are way to late. Words matter. MD

YUP


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Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227181
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I appreciate your post here James. I've never looked at you as the enemy and I accept your premise. Politicians are master manipulators and you bought in. Let's work to stop the burning of our rights together.

Good on you James!


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227182
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Well, Jim you couldn't predict the Senate would go to the Dems. When Dems get control of all the Congress and President they do stuff, not like the R's who make promises and win elections on those promises and rarely do them when they have Congress and the President.

The good thing is when Dems do stuff, people are so appalled they lose power the next election cycle.


Who is John Galt?
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: Trap Setter] #7227183
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I appreciate your post here James. I've never looked at you as the enemy and I accept your premise. Politicians are master manipulators and you bought in. Let's work to stop the burning of our rights together.

Good on you James!

Ur wrong here, the politician in this case is doing what said he would

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227200
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I would hope that you are even more concerned about HR1 and the loss of the filibuster. Clearly they are going to impose totalitarian governance on us.

There is only one way to deal with this and it isn't voting. That is no longer a possibility after the 2020 fiasco that HR 1 will make permanent.


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Originally Posted by white17
I would hope that you are even more concerned about HR1 and the loss of the filibuster. Clearly they are going to impose totalitarian governance on us.

There is only one way to deal with this and it isn't voting. That is no longer a possibility after the 2020 fiasco that HR 1 will make permanent.


Yep, a person would have to have their head up their _ _ _ to not see what's going on. "They" are trying a complete takeover of our govt.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227212
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Let’s stand United and get it done. Fight like heck. If we don’t. We will loose our second amendment. Thank you James.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227217
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I'm still not 100% that James even voted for Biden. If I remember correctly he said he hadn't voted for a democrat for president since the 80s. Probably voted 3rd party. But if he did and is admitting his mistake I'll give him respect for that. I didn't particularly like Trump but I knew he was our best bet for saving this country

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227220
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James you say to some they try to hold back "change" which is inevitable. Just what "change" do you see as inevitable?

I am surprised you didn't/couldn't see what Biden was wanting to do. His entire career he has been after guns. I don't or won't belittle you but I do have to say, you need to step back and look at the forest not just a few trees.

For the record, I have never thought you were a true Democrat. I don't know who you voted for, as you say, that is your business. I respect that.

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Originally Posted by RM trapper
I'm still not 100% that James even voted for Biden. If I remember correctly he said he hadn't voted for a democrat for president since the 80s. Probably voted 3rd party. But if he did and is admitting his mistake I'll give him respect for that. I didn't particularly like Trump but I knew he was our best bet for saving this country


Doubt he did also, but that's not the problem with him.

It was the last 5 years of his trolling that turned everyone on him and a couple others. Some are gone but the ones that didn't get a vacation are Still fresh in peoples minds.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227224
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Some fail to read between the lines here as always.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227229
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Originally Posted by James
Yeah, that's a fair question. I don't know what to do from here.

My prior idea of sending donations to gun and trapping groups has been mocked.

I won't jump on the Trump train, but am open to reasonable suggestions.

Jim


You're old and retired. Enjoy your retirement. Let the kids figure this out. It's their future, not yours.


Who is John Galt?
Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: upstateNY] #7227256
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by martyd
Not buying it. You are way to late. Words matter. MD

YUP

Exactly.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227264
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He won't answer that ?
Anybody with a pulse against TRUMP.
Bless his heart...

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: Jacob W] #7227313
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Originally Posted by Jacob W
I know you quit posting on this thread but here is my question if in the 2024 election and assuming there is still so called fare elections and biden or harris is the dems candidate and if trump runs again and is the republicans candidate who would you go for trump or biden same as last time and you know a 3rd party can't win


I'd feel pretty good betting money the R's won't let Trump run again. They know that if they do that, they're pretty much going to be electing the D candidate by default. If they put anyone decent on the ticket they should be in like flynn.

James, we all make choices and live with them for better or worse. Just keep on keeping on!

Happy trapping! ScottW

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They should copy the dems playbook-run Kasich as a figurehead to garner the votes and have Trump set policy from the basement.

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I will vote for Kasich when Kamala decides to become celibate and joins a convent.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Kasich is a closet Hillary. That’s the truth. He is no friend to anyone. Except himself

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227775
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I like Bocos idea. False front puppet.

Re: I wuz wrong! [Re: James] #7227818
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Somehow, this thread wound up in Pen & Quill.

I feel like I'm in Purgatory!

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
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Originally Posted by James
For the record, I've never defended Biden here, never told anyone to vote for him, or said I planned to vote for him myself. (My actual vote is my own business.)

But I was wrong in thinking that his pre-election talk about gun control was just rhetoric. I thought he would realize he had bigger fish to fry and would not want to expend limited political capital on guns. My prediction was wrong. In fact, Biden is now seriously pushing gun control. He deserves the resistance of all gun owners.

If I pooh-poohed someone's doomsaying about Biden's anti-Second Amendment policies, I have to say this: you were right.

Now, before someone posts to accuse me of posting "click-bait," or urges others to skip the thread, why don't you just skip it yourself? Everyone who starts a thread wants to get replies. In this, I am as guilty as anyone else. I'm not trying to make anyone mad, but I would like to incite some thoughtful, civil replies.

Even if they're just to say, "I told you so, James."

Jim

I am truly sorry I called you naive, I thought you knew.

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Donating to pro gun, pro trapping groups is important. If you care about the future, it is a good thing to do.

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