Christians: Question
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Are we to judge? I say yes, just not to condemnation. The church seems to preach judge not, lest ye be judged. From my study I only see that as half right because Jesus tells us how to judge. Am I wrong?
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Re: Christians: Question
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04/20/21 08:29 PM
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The Bible tells us not to speak evil of dignitaries and I struggle mightily with that. Pelosi, Waters and AOC among others take me to my limit daily. Yes that is very much a struggle with me also. Lol.
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Re: Christians: Question
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04/20/21 08:33 PM
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Discernment vs sitting in judgement. That's how I see it too. You're Southern Baptist warrior and maybe it's peculiar to this denomination or maybe just my church. You mention judgement(or discernment) someone always blurts out Judge not , lest ye be judged.
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Re: Christians: Question
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I have always understood that verse to mean that you will be judged by the same standard that you judge others by... In other words be prepared to live up to your own standards and not be hypocritical.
Mike
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Re: Christians: Question
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Discernment vs sitting in judgement. ^^ This ^^ I do not believe we have the "authority" to judge our fellow man. Even labeling or calling others names, like "fool" for example, puts us on shaky ground, IMO.
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Re: Christians: Question
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The Bible tells us not to speak evil of dignitaries and I struggle mightily with that. Pelosi, Waters and AOC among others take me to my limit daily. I wouldn't consider these morons dignitaries.
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Re: Christians: Question
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04/20/21 08:50 PM
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The Bible tells us not to speak evil of dignitaries and I struggle mightily with that. Pelosi, Waters and AOC among others take me to my limit daily. Yes that is very much a struggle with me also. Lol. I found a church that fits me. A few years ago, as our pastor read the Holy Bible's description of a fool someone kept flashing pics with quotes captioned of a big eared loose lipped dignitary possibly from Kenya.
Jay, he also helps this man a lot as he reminds me that all the time I spend in judgment of others is less time I spend in action makin a real difference.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Christians: Question
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Leviticus 19:15 KJV: Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
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"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Christians: Question
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He who is without sin cast the first stone is another example of what I hear. In this story I don't believe Jesus was telling the Pharisees that they were wrong for judging her to be a sinner since Jesus tells her to go and sin no more. It's the judging to condemnation (death) that he took issue with. If your going to judge to condemnation expect the same. I sometimes wonder if my church does this to not step on toes. Kind of like you can find plenty of churches that will preach John 3:16 but finding those that preach John 3:18 is becoming a rarity.
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1Cor. 6:2 1If any of you has a grievance against another, how dare he go to law before the unrighteous instead of before the saints! 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!…
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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I think John 8: 1-11 provides a lot of insight. ( Woman caught in adultery )
53Then each of them went home, 81while Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him and he sat down and began to teach them. 3The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery; and making her stand before all of them, 4they said to him, ‘Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. 5Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?’ 6They said this to test him, so that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ‘Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.’ 8And once again he bent down and wrote on the ground.* 9When they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the elders; and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10Jesus straightened up and said to her, ‘Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?’ 11She said, ‘No one, sir.’* And Jesus said, ‘Neither do I condemn you. Go your way, and from now on do not sin again.’]]*
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Re: Christians: Question
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The Bible tells us not to speak evil of dignitaries and I struggle mightily with that. Pelosi, Waters and AOC among others take me to my limit daily. I wouldn't consider these morons dignitaries. I've been looking for wiggle room on that one.
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