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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248279
04/20/21 10:45 PM
04/20/21 10:45 PM
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I can't find results posted , whatever the results, is this what the overall market is like or does auction set the market ?

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248398
04/21/21 06:39 AM
04/21/21 06:39 AM
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Sorry Coonman I should have been more clear. Accounts were updated to include the rest of the sale but no further overall sale results released yet.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bblwi] #7248426
04/21/21 07:15 AM
04/21/21 07:15 AM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I will trap next year for sure. When it comes to coon I will do so to keep my farmer land owners satisfied that I will remove them, even if they don't wind up being sold. There is a sense of responsibility at times when land owner have let you trap their property for 40 plus years. As to rats, yes that will happen. I am watching a lot of the smaller sloughs dry up all ready. We need some moisture or we will have a lot of what has been good rat habitat the last two years dry and dry early.

Bryce

So will you skin and finish your five dollar coon and how many do you need to trap to clear your conscience of guilt? If you feel that bad you could always eat them. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248473
04/21/21 08:31 AM
04/21/21 08:31 AM
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People need to stop trapping coon, period. Things change, I'm all for taking care of land owners but this market is so poor I would need to get paid to remove any.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248511
04/21/21 09:20 AM
04/21/21 09:20 AM
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Michigan
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Been so busy, forgot all about the timing of this auction. Just logged in and looked at my FHA account.

My Michigan coyotes did "fair" compared to previous years but one of my bobcats sold for $260.00.
Thats an all-time high for me. The world has officially gone nuts. LOL

-NC

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248543
04/21/21 10:11 AM
04/21/21 10:11 AM
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Manitoba, Canada
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Had a couple squirrels go for $4.30 (5.40cad)... Maybe I'll just walk around plinking tree rats next year and let someone else flesh coons for the same money lol.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Northcountry] #7248545
04/21/21 10:13 AM
04/21/21 10:13 AM
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A lot would depend upon when I would harvest them and how many. If I catch them in mid-November I would put them up. They don't need to go to market during these lower price times. Does not cost much to store 50-100 coons for a couple years, waiting for things to improve. I don't feel guilty about trapping fewer coons. To me there is a difference between guilt and responsibility. Farmers continue to produce milk even during those years when production costs are not covered, spending a week and a $100 of gas money to harvest a couple hundred dollars worth of coon is not a big commitment in resources for me as a retired person.

Bryce

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248564
04/21/21 10:35 AM
04/21/21 10:35 AM
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There are many reasons for trapping. 2 farmers near me want coons, coyotes, and beaver removed on a regular basis. Do I charge? Of course not! In return my 2 sons get exclusive hunting rights. btw total almost 2000 acres.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248575
04/21/21 10:41 AM
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As long as we continue to sell coon for 5 dollars and accept that we will never get to 10.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Rat Masterson] #7248604
04/21/21 11:21 AM
04/21/21 11:21 AM
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Armpit, ak
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
As long as we continue to sell coon for 5 dollars and accept that we will never get to 10.

As long as you supply at 10 you will never get to 30. You will never get 30!


Who is John Galt?
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248614
04/21/21 11:33 AM
04/21/21 11:33 AM
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I remember a local guy that trapped 1000's of nutria back in the hay day when we averaged over $10. When prices dropped significantly below that he kept jawing at us to stop supplying the market until the price went up over $10 again. Over and over we were chastised for suppressing the prices by continuing to produce at the lower prices.

Well here we are nearly 40 years later and PNW nutria average below $3 at auctions and very few are pelted. The nutria market died because too few are produced to interest the Chinese ( or any other manufacturers).


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248627
04/21/21 11:46 AM
04/21/21 11:46 AM
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I prefer to believe in the law!

The supply of my product appears to be down nearly 80 percent from two years ago and prices appeared to nearly double since my Xmas check with the perfect 90 percent clearance number you want.

Last edited by Dirt; 04/22/21 01:16 PM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: LLtrapper] #7248651
04/21/21 12:10 PM
04/21/21 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by bblwi
I will trap next year for sure. When it comes to coon I will do so to keep my farmer land owners satisfied that I will remove them, even if they don't wind up being sold. There is a sense of responsibility at times when land owner have let you trap their property for 40 plus years. As to rats, yes that will happen. I am watching a lot of the smaller sloughs dry up all ready. We need some moisture or we will have a lot of what has been good rat habitat the last two years dry and dry early.

Bryce

So will you skin and finish your five dollar coon and how many do you need to trap to clear your conscience of guilt? If you feel that bad you could always eat them. LLL


Im pretty sure most farmers get reimbursed for animal damage anyhow. Some when I ask permission say that fox isnt bothering me. You helped them for all those years. how much longer do you feel you need to help them? New age farming wrecked a lot of mrat trapping around here with the tiled ditches, straightening of streams and planting right up to the creek.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248659
04/21/21 12:27 PM
04/21/21 12:27 PM
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Farmers here in WI don't get paid for coon damage. Fox is not an issue for farmers and in reality neither are the coyotes. Coon and rats here are more of the issue. Rats crawl up tile lines and die and plug them until they rot away. Coon do corn damage but also ruin plastic pile covers, feed in bags and also den in areas. Most of the farms I trap are smaller dairies and operate in more traditional methods. I do have 3 large farms and they like the removal, especially around the storage areas and keeping the tile lines open. In our heavy clay soils many fields have tile strung every 20-30 feet to drain the clay.

Bryce

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7248675
04/21/21 12:44 PM
04/21/21 12:44 PM
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Armpit, ak
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Maybe the the taxpayers can build some coonfat biodeisel plants in the golden triangle


Who is John Galt?
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: 080808] #7248680
04/21/21 12:52 PM
04/21/21 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 080808
There are many reasons for trapping. 2 farmers near me want coons, coyotes, and beaver removed on a regular basis. Do I charge? Of course not! In return my 2 sons get exclusive hunting rights. btw total almost 2000 acres.


He ain't worried too much about the damage coon do or he'd have 50 people killing deer which do more damage.

But yea, the extra value for hunting rights makes it worth it. Ditch them


Last edited by hippie; 04/21/21 01:03 PM.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: bblwi] #7248694
04/21/21 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Farmers here in WI don't get paid for coon damage. Fox is not an issue for farmers and in reality neither are the coyotes. Coon and rats here are more of the issue. Rats crawl up tile lines and die and plug them until they rot away. Coon do corn damage but also ruin plastic pile covers, feed in bags and also den in areas. Most of the farms I trap are smaller dairies and operate in more traditional methods. I do have 3 large farms and they like the removal, especially around the storage areas and keeping the tile lines open. In our heavy clay soils many fields have tile strung every 20-30 feet to drain the clay.

Bryce

Do farmers get paid for deer damage? My point is I think they get compensated for corn loss no matter who did it?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: lumberjack391] #7248701
04/21/21 01:25 PM
04/21/21 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Originally Posted by bblwi
Farmers here in WI don't get paid for coon damage. Fox is not an issue for farmers and in reality neither are the coyotes. Coon and rats here are more of the issue. Rats crawl up tile lines and die and plug them until they rot away. Coon do corn damage but also ruin plastic pile covers, feed in bags and also den in areas. Most of the farms I trap are smaller dairies and operate in more traditional methods. I do have 3 large farms and they like the removal, especially around the storage areas and keeping the tile lines open. In our heavy clay soils many fields have tile strung every 20-30 feet to drain the clay.

Bryce

Do farmers get paid for deer damage? My point is I think they get compensated for corn loss no matter who did it?

Curiosity question..................Who do you think pays the farmer for their crop damage caused by animals?


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: QuietButDeadly] #7248937
04/21/21 06:50 PM
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Insurance?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: lumberjack391] #7249015
04/21/21 08:02 PM
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Today's modern crop insurance is based on yield and price for a per acre or unit protection and based on what coverage the farmer chooses to pay for and is not specific to any species or causes here in WI at least except for hail insurance. The cost for the premium is based on the prices for the commodities during a specific period usually in February and a yield component. That is somewhat tied to the average or expected yield in your area or your recent production history or both. The lower protection one buys the higher the percentage the premiums are subsidized by the federal crop insurance program. The more protection you buy the higher percentage of the premium cost the producer pays for. If crop loans are needed or used to plant the crop many lenders require crop insurance to cover the loan. With this type of coverage most farmers or producers do not submit claims for wildlife crop damage. Those that do here in WI have to follow certain regs that can involve opening the land to public hunting etc. For the most part it is only higher value crops that are seeking wildlife damage funds, such as apples etc. There are farmers near large marshes where geese are a real issue and farms located near larger expanses of say parks, etc. where the deer populations are very high and most of those seek permits and allow those to be used. The main reason farmers don't use the open hunting is they then have no control over who is on their property and that is a big concern to most of them.

Bryce

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