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Montana special #3 questions #7248346
04/21/21 12:36 AM
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This is my first post so bare with me if this topic has come up. This year I decided to experiment with a few different traps. I purchased 5 Montana special dogless #3. Naturally since Iím from Montana. The traps set for 5 weeks with 11 snaps no catches. I also had 20 duke 550 in the same area that had no snaps with 19 catches. Catches are coyotes badgers coons porcupine. Some of the things I noticed about the MSD is pan tension and play in the pan. I have tried to adjust them as much as I could. I am really curious what otherís opinions are. I know misses are a part of trapping doesnít mean I have to like it

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Frozen ground? Or where you using Some sort of anti-freeze
Or wax dirt?
Roughly what pan tension you running?
Do clean the wax off the trigger and jaw?


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Re: Montana special #3 questions [Re: beartooth trapr] #7248912
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Set some when the ground was frozen and some when warm I do run wax dirt pan tension is 3.5 lbs and there was any wax build up. I really donít know how you could adjust the tension [Linked Image]

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Could it be deer snapping them?


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Re: Montana special #3 questions [Re: ] #7249258
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That is weird, I run a dozen and a half of the Specials and I can honestly say I have only had one sprung trap without a critter in it and that was because of the amount of snow on top of the hay set. There shouldn't be any play in the pan, if there is you might have filed it wrong. Mine are all adjusted to the weight of a 18 in rebar stake, whatever that weighs. Very little filing done to make those adjustments.

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Sage, assuming youíre trapping in Montana in those pictures, those traps have to be center swiveled. New law from last year.


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Originally Posted by USMC47
Sage, assuming youíre trapping in Montana in those pictures, those traps have to be center swiveled. New law from last year.

What exactly is the purpose of that law?

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Iíve been using the Montana #3 specials for several years and donít recall having a pullout issue. As far as pan (height) adjustment, I contacted the Grahamís who talked me thru it. Iíd suggest you contact John to see if he can talk you thru your issues.

Your trap looks rusty. Did you buy them new or used? Could spring strength be an issue?


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Yeah looking at that pic that aint a Montana #3 Special.

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All traps are center swiveled now thatís an old picture. Traps were purchased new 2 years ago. They are dyed and waxed yes they are montana specials says so on the pan

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04/24/21 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Originally Posted by USMC47
Sage, assuming youíre trapping in Montana in those pictures, those traps have to be center swiveled. New law from last year.

What exactly is the purpose of that law?
I wasnít here when they enacted it so I canít say what the arguments were from either the for or against side.


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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Originally Posted by USMC47
Sage, assuming youíre trapping in Montana in those pictures, those traps have to be center swiveled. New law from last year.

What exactly is the purpose of that law?

It was just to please the anti trapper's
They had a bill board up by Billings with a coyote in a old long spring
All wrapped up and looked like no swivel.
And bang we had center swivel all our traps.


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