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Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7250766
04/24/21 08:50 AM
04/24/21 08:50 AM
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alabama
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Originally Posted by plainstrapping25
and where can I buy lures from. James Lucero?

Or just call him at this # 1 575 585 6314 James Lucero

Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7250815
04/24/21 10:07 AM
04/24/21 10:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Nebraska
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I pick one bait every year. Sometimes a lure. Rarely a lure. Bag stays nice and light. Then I just find the coyotes. That’s the key over which lure or bait. Lure makers will often tell you that the more smells the better. Some lure makers won’t. Find those guys.


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Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7250836
04/24/21 10:59 AM
04/24/21 10:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2019
NE
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Thank you steel traps. And everyone else for the input

Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7250889
04/24/21 11:49 AM
04/24/21 11:49 AM
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alabama
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Originally Posted by plainstrapping25
Thank you steel traps. And everyone else for the input

Your welcome. To be honest. Because of ants. I just about quit baits and dirt holes. Dont get me wrong. When the pups are out. I set some dirt holes with bait. OR when i am in cattle county I set some dirtholes with bait

Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7252034
04/26/21 06:56 AM
04/26/21 06:56 AM
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Firth, Nebraska
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Ive got several locations that produce 2-3 coyotes each season, nice guaranteed catch locations. Good travel ways between classic areas like heavy cover or old waterways, fencerows, pond dams, etc.
I used same bait at those for years and noticed I did way better with a single bait and good urine than any time I used any type of lure.
Ive switched baits recently and catches are still consistent at those places but I did quit buying little bottles of lure.
Now I run only dirtholes with a single bait and always put in 2-3 sets at each location. One of the sets will be a post set with just pee, the other two will be dirtholes with same bait.
.y notes show catches ratios are about same at both types of sets. I do get doubles sometimes but mostly I use more than one set because we have so many coon, possums, and skunks around here you need other sets to keep catching coyotes.
Grahams cat creek and Marty's showtime were a couple baits Wade shared with me a few years ago and I like both of those a lot. MN Hiawatha valley was my go to for many years. Also had great luck with Cletus apple road.
Its definitely helpful to have a good bait but key is make good sets in good locations with sign. I keep my bucket way more simple these days with just a single bait and bottle of pee, 2-3 sets per location, and set lots of good locations. Play the numbers like that and you will do well on coyotes. Location, location, location. Set on sign. Oh and with our crappy weather I do use LOTS of waxed dirt each season. Sets need to operate to catch anything, period. And I suppose a good dose of confidence goes a long ways too.
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Last edited by jabNE; 04/26/21 07:01 AM.

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Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7252145
04/26/21 10:52 AM
04/26/21 10:52 AM
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Iowa
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Iowa
Wayne Derrick sells some smc urine, otherwise one legged Johnny or bobw sell stuff that’s way better than anything you can buy from the warehouses.

Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7252175
04/26/21 12:13 PM
04/26/21 12:13 PM
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Nebraska
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I've found the same thing as Jim in the past as well as KJ. I really am partial to any of the variations of the Bill Nelson Formula. I've used most of them with success. Any of Marty's baits/lures are top quality. I also had similar results with Apple Road. John Graham's Cat Creek has been very consistent for me. I ran it for two years in a row because it was that good, my catches increased. I thought like most I better give it a rest for a season. This last season it produced more than it has in the past on the same ground and a lot of the same locations.

I can't really tell you if it was the bait, the full moon, the weather, or just being flat out on location. I can tell you that I was trapping right next to someone with more skill than me trapping coyotes. He was using other commercial baits. In a 12 day time frame I was up to 11 or so cats. We don't have a very big population of cats here. The coyote catch was also higher on the cat creek. I'm at a point where I've found something that I'm very confident in (for me it's Cat Creek) and I plan to just run it every season until it's not available. There's no reason for me to switch it up or run another lure/bait etc. I'm convinced for what I am doing (taking as many as I can quickly and moving on) that it'll catch the majority of the animals that encounter it. My job is just to be on location. Take it for what it's worth I'm just a hobby trapper and act like I do it for my living a couple weeks a year. I believe all but two of the cats in this picture were caught in my 12 days off this past season on nothing but Cat Creek and quality urine.

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Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7252445
04/26/21 09:08 PM
04/26/21 09:08 PM
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Ogden UT
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Ogden UT
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I have not been trapping for numbers but I feel I do fairly well on the foxes and coons I have here. I honestly run only two lures and three baits. Fox Hollow Bounty Hunter and Cavens Violator 7 for lures, fish based baits of different types of fish and a very old bottle of dark fox urine, newer bottle of fox urine and one of bobcat. That is really all I carry. I have tried other things but catch non-targets too much or nothing at all. I have tried several things and just run these year after year. They are not coyotes but I catch 30-40 foxes a year in November and December. It is good enough for me.

Re: Lures/baits [Re: plainstrapping25] #7252501
04/26/21 09:50 PM
04/26/21 09:50 PM
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The last 2 years, Kendall Obermier's Lethal Injection is out catching anything else by a wide margin for me.Every year I try one new bait, but haven't had anything come close to Kendall's.

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