I can't believe an all electric car doesn't use any more battery power in cold weather when you need to run a heater or in the summer when you are using AC than when you're not.

LOL I been doing that for years in my 28,000 dollar chevy pickup with onstar !!! What that robot set you back?

Onstar???? I’m missing something. I’ve got a couple of vehicles with Onstar.

Base price is about $35,000. All wheel drive and autopilot brings it up to about $50,000. Autopilot is about a $6,000 upgrade. I wouldn’t recommend it but I wanted to experience and understand it well and the technology is really cool. It works well! We use the Tesla to shuttle customers around and sometimes let them drive it and they think that’s great. For sure, they talk about it when they get to work and that’s what I want. It’s a process getting certified but we are getting to see quite a few Tesla’s from a long ways brought to us.

I didn’t say weather doesn’t affect the battery, I said I haven’t really noticed anything and I also said I haven’t done any long trips in the winter.

I’m sorry guys, but electric cars are coming. It’s coming because it works. Think of all the moving parts in an internal combustion engine and compare it to a battery. Battery technology is progressing and charging will take a fraction of the time it now takes. (Oops, I just crapped another unicorn, right Jbyrd? Lol)

What all is involved in getting certified to do body work on Teslas? Is it mostly just safety stuff regarding the electric cables?

A lot of Tesla specific training. It’s a different animal. We have to be able to pull batteries, etc. Tesla has very specific procedures for repairing everything. They did quite a bit of research and investigation of us before selecting us. If a shop is not certified, they can’t even buy parts for them. They want to make sure we know what we’re doing if we’re fixing one. I’m going offline. Time to watch the NFL draft.

The only constant is change.

E Cars are coming, not because they are better but because the Gov. is pushing this. The Gov. is also pushing charging stations and mandating the use of both. If they were so great we wouldn't have to subsidize it.

It's not about what you want, it's about what they deem to be good for you.

Are you for getting rid of oil subsidies too, right? Let's get rid of all subsidies and let the market decide.

Yes, as a matter of fact I am.

Everybody here seems to be saying electric cars are coming, there are way more of them than there were a few years ago. I remember when they were saying that back in the nineties. Hasn't happened yet. From my perspective there were a lot more of them around ten years ago than there are today. Look at all the electric cars that used to be made by the Big Auto companies, now look how many are made by them today. Tesla is a niche market and has done quite well, but even hybrids aren't near as common as they were a few years ago. Mainly because your average Honda car gets as good or better gas mileage than your average hybrid. Costs less to buy, less to maintain, is more reliable and costs about the same to operate. Hybrids nowadays are mainly a status symbol; except in places government is trying to force people to hybrids and electric cars through legislation.

You know Chevrolet makes a hybrid half ton pickup? According to THEIR published average mpg it gets 1 mpg LESS than the same pickup with their six cylinder gas engine in it. And costs significantly more. Why do you think you see virtually none of them on the road?

I think we should let the free market operate, there will be people who buy electric cars because they think they are better for the environment, more efficient, economical, whatever. There will be people who buy fuel efficient gas cars because they think they are cheaper, more efficient, economical, better for the environment or more reliable. There will be people who buy gas guzzlers hot rods because they have more power, are faster, and look cool. But if the free market is left free electric cars will take over when and if they become feasible and desireable to the majority of consumers. If they aren't feasible and reliable, they shouldn't be legislated mandatory.

Now for Scotty Kilmers take on electric cars. 10:24 run time , enjoy.

Do away with all subsidies, sure why not, in fact do away with half the fed Gov. jobs. I doubt anyone would notice. Next thing you know the Feds will force everyone to buy health ins. and call it a tax.

Yes got an app on my phone to start my car and truck in winter or summer. Lock unlock

I was describing your experience at the charging station. Just wait until YOUR predictions of e cars taking over see how pleasant the charging docks become.

The battery alone isn't going to power an electric car.. it still requires a motor. A motor has moving parts that ;go bad too.
I wonder if 70 yrs from now guys will be tooling around in their old restored Tesla..

if every car in the use today in the usa were electric, it would take 400 years to make the batteries, and every battery means removal of 500 tons of earth to mine the lithium to make each battery!

NOW NOW you racist your trying to say with common sense and facts that the left's big baby is not going to work ! LOL

Well aint that special, you and I finally agree on sumpin.

What is Blue Gas or is it just another name for hydrogen to get our mind off the Hindenburg. I see this article came out in Feb but this is the first time I heard of it, but usually I'm behind and catch things the second or third time around, lol.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/blue-gas-could-become-a-tesla-killer/ar-BB1dOsgr

Electric cars might work for around town and commutes, but when I see the amount of traffic going north and south between Seattle and San Diego I just can't imagine everone needing to stop every 150 miles or so to recharge. Then taking 30 minutes or more to recharge. Can you imagine the number of charging stations that would be needed to accomplish that? Ridiculous.
Not to mention the many extra hours it would take to make the trip.

Many of the better cars now report 250 miles per charge, but yhat is under the best of conditions; no mountain driving, warm weather, and daylight driving. Start adding any extra energy demands and the ranges rapidly deteriorate.

However, if the leftists get their way they will just decree that things like vacation travel are non-essential and prohibit such travel; that will make electric cars feasible. Perfect.

Check out this article, looks like lots of Californians are giving up on electric cars.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/1...itching-back-gas-because-charging-hassle