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Wax question #7256809
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So I came up with this idea of waxing the spring end of some conibears.I knew I was going to want to control how deep in the wax the the trap wax so I figured I would do it by holding in wax by hand.To speed up the process I heated the traps up in pellet grill.Now Iím wondering if the smell from the traps in pellet grill tainted my wax for canine traps?

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Re: Wax question [Re: Mad Scientist] #7256818
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Sure. I have 2 wax pots. One for canine traps and one for water traps. If I think my canine wax was contaminated I just demote it to wax for water traps. The only thing that goes in the wax for my canine traps are freshly boiled traps. If youíre worried about scent and your canine traps then you probably shouldnít use that wax for them.


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Wax absorbs smells very well. Iíd almost guarantee itís tainted now. Like bhugo said, demote it to the water line if itís causing problems.

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Thanks guys I was surprised by how much gunk was in the bottom of pot
as Iím pretty careful on cleaning traps before they get dipped.

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Would using the same wax from year to year have an issues? I've used the same wax just add to it when i need to from year to year. I've caught yotes with it. I keep it in the same pot with lid on it in fur shed.

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I use wax for years. The only thing that goes into the canine wax pot is freshly boiled (lye then logwood extract) traps. The wax turns the same color as the dye but thatís fine. I store it like you. I put the pot into a small trash bag as well as a lid. I only demote it if I believe itís contaminated or I need a bunch more wax for water traps. I usually just add to my wax pots yearly.


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I've never waxed my water traps always just dyed them. What is the reasoning behind waxing water traps? I'm thinking rust prevention isthe main one. What am i missing here? I am under the understanding it was mainly scent control and speed for land sets.

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Makes the trap close faster.


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Re: Wax question [Re: son-of-grizz] #7260852
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Originally Posted by son-of-grizz
I've never waxed my water traps always just dyed them. What is the reasoning behind waxing water traps? I'm thinking rust prevention isthe main one. What am i missing here? I am under the understanding it was mainly scent control and speed for land sets.

Iím just getting to old to fight setting a rusty trap and with keeping the trigger out of the wax itís just a win- win.Just an experiment but Iím optimistic on this one!

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Would it be ok to use the same wax for both wet and dry? Granted I'd wax dryland traps first then do water.

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I would say yes as long as youíre only using dye.Waxing speed dip traps will probably ruin your wax.Just my two cents!

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Rust prevention and speed. Waxed traps fire much faster.

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If you do not meticulously clean your water traps like your canine traps, you will contaminate your wax. I donít boil my water traps in lye first like my canine traps, I just spray them off and boil in my logwood leftover from the canine traps. Having 2 wax pots is necessaryÖ..if you worry about scents on your canine traps.

Originally Posted by son-of-grizz
Would it be ok to use the same wax for both wet and dry? Granted I'd wax dryland traps first then do water.


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Originally Posted by The Beav
Makes the trap close faster.

Originally Posted by bearcat2
Rust prevention and speed. Waxed traps fire much faster.

Thatís a fact. I havenít done mine in a couple years but I used to wax the sides of my BGs and MAN they are fast.


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Well I am going to try and wax some of my BG's this year and see if it helps. Thanks for the help.

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Originally Posted by son-of-grizz
Well I am going to try and wax some of my BG's this year and see if it helps. Thanks for the help.


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Re: Wax question [Re: bhugo] #7262184
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Originally Posted by bhugo
I use wax for years. The only thing that goes into the canine wax pot is freshly boiled (lye then logwood extract) traps. The wax turns the same color as the dye but thatís fine. I store it like you. I put the pot into a small trash bag as well as a lid. I only demote it if I believe itís contaminated or I need a bunch more wax for water traps. I usually just add to my wax pots yearly.

How do you deal with the lye water when done?Do you let cool and skim wax off or flow cooling pot with fresh water or pour water out.Iíve checked archives but never really seen this explained.

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I think he meant he cleans the traps In lye water then dyes them then waxes them. Wax on top of water wont give you a decent wax job. The trap needs to be as hot as the wax to do a decent job.


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Originally Posted by The Beav
I think he meant he cleans the traps In lye water then dyes them then waxes them. Wax on top of water wont give you a decent wax job. The trap needs to be as hot as the wax to do a decent job.

Iím talking about wax from used traps that floats up to the top of lye water.

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