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Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? #7270565
05/23/21 10:12 AM
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Reading some fascinating articles on modern America's losing it's heritage of reflecting, most notably played out in someone's storytelling.
Storytelling or narratives require a person chronicling the situation to refrain from all things that derail the story itself, such as;

* Skipping past details for various bias reasons
* Rush to analyze or judge in order to problem solve or advise
* Generalization (a form of personal projection)

This heritage of reflecting is bigger than we may realize. For example, physicians use "case studies," stories for instance which can be derailed by the things mentioned which changes the story itself.

Story telling. Some of you tell a good one while people in American more and more, "ain't got time for all that. I'm all up in those bullet points!"
Makes me reflect.

Blessings on a Sunday!
Mark



Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270568
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^^^^ too much generalization there-get to the point.


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Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270572
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It's a hurry up world.

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270575
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It means that people don't want the truth nowdays.
Or can't tell the truth because it might hurt someone's feelings.
Bullshi#$% is what it is. When the shi#$% hits the can they are going to melt.
And no...I won't apologize for this post...


Donnie

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270576
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Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim.

Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on.

Examples
The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like.

The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe.

Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: Law Dog] #7270579
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim.

Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on.

Examples
The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like.

The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe.

Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin.

And I guess you calling people names is OK
I didn't forget..

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: wetdog] #7270582
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim.

Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on.

Examples
The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like.

The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe.

Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin.

And I guess you calling people names is OK
I didn't forget..



Yep I’m sure it was just out of the blue how annoying were you that day? LOL I don’t forget either so that just makes my point of the division part!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: Law Dog] #7270586
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim.

Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on.

Examples
The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like.

The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe.

Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin.


You have a point, but I see plenty of kind and helpful posts on here.
We're kinda like siblings, I think. We'll squabble and be mean to each other, but if a guy is down and needs help he'll get it without hesitation.

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270587
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Yep

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: Boco] #7270591
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Originally Posted by Boco
^^^^ too much generalization there-get to the point.



Boco my friend in the trapping faith, you are a hoot!
Not the owl type mind you. The fun loving human sort.

Blessings to the beaver slough!
Mark

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270594
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Mark, this makes me want to tell a story myself, after having reflected upon a small series of events.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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People no longer think--they react. People no longer read--they scroll and skim. Both of these are a recipe for no reflection. No reflection leads to one messed up society.

And I should have mentioned, most people want to be told how to think (react). They won't admit it but it happens with scary regularity.

These comments apply to, I would estimate, 9 out of 10 people.

Last edited by Blaine County; 05/23/21 12:13 PM. Reason: More reflection and added a guestimate
Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: trapdog1] #7270632
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim.

Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on.

Examples
The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like.

The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe.

Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin.


You have a point, but I see plenty of kind and helpful posts on here.
We're kinda like siblings, I think. We'll squabble and be mean to each other, but if a guy is down and needs help he'll get it without hesitation.


I noticed a aggressive attitude coming my way but in my business over the years taking the “first swing” so to say is not in the cards for me but I will swing back when the time comes after that I just move on I don’t take it personal but I don’t forget the action my gut reminds me. I just don’t dwell on it no good outcome from continuing the issue. Trying to be helpful is even tricky with the assuming, attempts to make you look bad or repeating the things you did not even say often happen. LOL Not directed at you as a general view, tell me I’m wrong and you don’t see that.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: ] #7270637
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Not sure if this applies but I've observed most folks aren't like me when it comes to understanding the past.

I, for some odd reason, want to know and understand the people who made stuff happen.

Most folks just want to know what happened.


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After taking the first swing... laugh

Now take some time to reflect on that. wink

Re: Are Americans losing our ability to reflect? [Re: hippie] #7270642
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Originally Posted by hippie
After taking the first swing... laugh

Now take some time to reflect on that. wink



Not taking the first swing is what it says. LOL

Last edited by Law Dog; 05/23/21 01:03 PM.

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When people or a society live just for the moment, we become much more like non-reasoning animals. In our modern instant event accounting, not much need for reflection, and maybe more importantly no desire to. The ability is there in my opinion but not the desire or the reason to see the need. Not really new, people have been hating to have to take history classes since my time in school. We are just moving away from the need to reflect faster than in the past. "Life can only be understood by reviewing the past, but life can only be lived by looking into the future".


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Although we as humans have always been quick to speak and slow to listen it's getting worse with the in your face technology and instant gratification. This is part of many reasons I hate my kids being on electronics.

Reflecting is something I'm trying to instill in my kids. They keep getting in trouble I tel them to think before they act, think before they speak, and reflect on what they did to get them in trouble and to learn from it.

I love to teach by stories especially life experiences. It's just part of my culture.

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Originally Posted by Law Dog
"Lots of things lacking in many peoples thinking today just look what people say everyday even on here to others with no gain to anyone really just more division and that’s OK somehow. The negative is acceptable the positive is seen as weak people preach personal choice as a God given right then condemn others they don’t agree with, some call themselves Christians even though they don’t practice the ways of that claim."

I could not agree more. I get a kick out of those that profess to be Christians yet treat others like crap. It happens on here constantly. Some of
those who want to seem the most Holy are the worst.

"Empathy, compassion, respect for your fellow man is not fashionable in today’s society it seems being a Richard is chic today just sit back and watch the dog and pony shows going on."

It is pretty darn sad. God bless my late mother. She would be ashamed of me, and I would be too, if I followed some of the poor examples we see.

Examples
"The guy in IA used as cannon fodder some help him most mock the guy every chance they get. They even search for things to mock the guy that he did not post, can’t miss that opportunity to belittle fellow trapper it seems like."

The above example should make your stomach turn. I can remember seeing behavior like described when in grade school and even high school. I kind of figured that one would not see that behavior with grown men, but I was wrong.


"The people not interested in getting Covid shots calling those that did sheep and shotards, why I don’t see the point of these divisive actions what’s to be gained except to keep those high school behaviors going into their adult lives. When it comes a time they need help others will just scroll by in many cases I believe."

I have been amazed of the number of medical experts we have in society.


"Way to many doing the work of the Antis for them about time to start calling them out, let the games begin."


You hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Mac



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History is important , should not be rewritten to meet some narrative, and should be taught in schools. , not selectively either.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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