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hate crime bill #7272313
05/25/21 05:37 PM
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danny clifton Offline OP
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We have a right to our opinions, beliefs, religion, or lack of religion in the United States. People who are obeying the law have every expectation that L.E. will protect them if possible from law breakers no matter what they look like, who they love, who they pray too or dont pray too. As we should. We have laws making assault, murder and in some cases harassment illegal.

So why this hate crime stuff? Will it deter "hate crime" or make 'hate crime" more common????????

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-seeing-wave-of-textbook-anti-semitism-amid-israel-gaza-tensions


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272314
05/25/21 05:40 PM
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It will be used selectively like every tool they tell us is good they I’ll turn it into a weapon down the road and distort it’s true objective.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272316
05/25/21 05:52 PM
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Welcome the Thought Police. Hate crimes are thought crimes. Imagine the possibilities.


1 Samuel 17:45-47
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272321
05/25/21 05:55 PM
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Label anything that opposes your agenda as hate driven and then you can use the law against your opposition. Plus hate is emotion based and feelings are being raised up to a higher level than reasoning and logic.

Re: hate crime bill [Re: J Staton] #7272324
05/25/21 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Welcome the Thought Police. Hate crimes are thought crimes. Imagine the possibilities.


Yep.


Trump won....
Re: hate crime bill [Re: Yes sir] #7272327
05/25/21 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Label anything that opposes your agenda as hate driven and then you can use the law against your opposition. Plus hate is emotion based and feelings are being raised up to a higher level than reasoning and logic.


nailed it


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272329
05/25/21 06:08 PM
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In most cases any new crime bill favor the criminal. JMO


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Re: hate crime bill [Re: grumley701] #7272339
05/25/21 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by J Staton
Welcome the Thought Police. Hate crimes are thought crimes. Imagine the possibilities.

Yep.


Yup and once we have all the new red flag laws in place you can expect jack booted thugs at your door w/i hours of posting something someone else does not deem appropriate


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272667
05/26/21 07:59 AM
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Hate crime thing kinda sticks in my craw too.. Seems to me as you say a law is a law same for all. Does remind me though when they used to call some violent crimes. (Crimes Of Passion) ?? I just wonder how selectively they plan to enforce something like that? If you go past the fruit stand shoot it up because you hate fruit. Is that a then hate crime? or standard drive by Fruiting??
Not like calling some particular thing a hate crime is same as endangered species protection?
I just don't get it.

Mac


"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272673
05/26/21 08:09 AM
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If you can make a law to protect a bird, like a bald eagle; you can make a law to protect brown people.

I think that's what I heard from the brother of George Floyd, yesterday.


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Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272676
05/26/21 08:12 AM
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IMO saying the color of a persons skin, or which religion they belong to, or who they hit on at the bar on Saturday night, will determine what kind of protection they receive from L.E. and the judiciary, makes "hate" more likely by those in a different group.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272707
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If hate was a crime we could round up and lock up everyone on the left who openly declared their hatred for Donald Trump for 4 years.

Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272741
05/26/21 09:49 AM
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Just look at a mug shot of Pelosi and Hillary if you want to see hate. Those two are ate up with it.

Re: hate crime bill [Re: Yes sir] #7272747
05/26/21 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Just look at a mug shot of Pelosi and Hillary if you want to see hate. Those two are ate up with it.



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Re: hate crime bill [Re: Macthediver] #7272751
05/26/21 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
Hate crime thing kinda sticks in my craw too.. Seems to me as you say a law is a law same for all. Does remind me though when they used to call some violent crimes. (Crimes Of Passion) ?? I just wonder how selectively they plan to enforce something like that? If you go past the fruit stand shoot it up because you hate fruit. Is that a then hate crime? or standard drive by Fruiting??
Not like calling some particular thing a hate crime is same as endangered species protection?
I just don't get it.

Mac

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Re: hate crime bill [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7272768
05/26/21 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Just look at a mug shot of Pelosi and Hillary if you want to see hate. Those two are ate up with it.


[Linked Image]


No I haven't eaten yet and you can't make me. Don't you got a water gap washed out of something else to do?


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Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272818
05/26/21 11:21 AM
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How can I unsee this (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)? sick


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Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272826
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272828
05/26/21 11:32 AM
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lol


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Re: hate crime bill [Re: danny clifton] #7272840
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Danny what u just did would make rethink my position on hate crimes. That is heinous on your part...

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