Re: Animal instincts
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06/05/21 05:20 PM
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Rain on cable most likely gave off a smell everything has a smell more so to critters.
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/05/21 06:19 PM
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Not only can smell be an issue, but most importantly is sight. An animal should never see a snare or trap until it's caught.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/06/21 12:39 AM
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How clean where your gloves when you set them? Perhaps a secondary smell from your gloves got onto the snares even though you thought you had clean gloves?
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/06/21 11:35 AM
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My hogs have shown me they wise up to traps every time one closes and they weren't in it but I have yet to see any sign they refuse snares. That being said, if the cattle are not on the pasture I am in I still set up crawl unders and crawl thrus but I set out in the wide open trail where they are traveling at a much faster rate and it works exceptionally well.
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/07/21 05:16 PM
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Thats one other reason why I wax my snares.Unwaxed snares can be detected by animals when the metal oxidizes. Animals can also see the outline of a snare if the outline is not broken somewhat.This will lead them to investigate further with their other senses.
Last edited by Boco; 06/07/21 05:19 PM.
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/08/21 07:26 AM
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Set half a dozen pig snares today, went out and dumped some leftover watermelon. It’s 8:15pm about to be dark in 30 minutes or so. Scared a cat that’s been on the property. Than noticed a coon coming up the fence line. He stopped right where the snare is under the fence. Smelled it full circle and walked away. The snares have sat in the woods unset for a couple weeks. Just had a nice rain, was curious of anyone response with animals noticing snares. Do you realy think that coon knew what that the snare was ?
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/08/21 10:40 AM
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Set half a dozen pig snares today, went out and dumped some leftover watermelon. It’s 8:15pm about to be dark in 30 minutes or so. Scared a cat that’s been on the property. Than noticed a coon coming up the fence line. He stopped right where the snare is under the fence. Smelled it full circle and walked away. The snares have sat in the woods unset for a couple weeks. Just had a nice rain, was curious of anyone response with animals noticing snares. Do you realy think that coon knew what that the snare was ? Probably not but it was something different, so was worth investigating Everything gives off a smell, doesn’t matter what kind of treatment you give it, the trick is to not trigger the fight or flight instinct, by human smell or blood or other orders that trigger fear, or the o good food response by contamination by bait, blood, lure ect or smells that trigger other unwanted responses What you want is a neutral smell that they will mostly ignore, because it has no real associations with fear, food or other response triggers You say that’s why I wax it seals in the trap smell, sorry to tell you wax has its own smell, heck even my old nose can detect it when held close, but in most cases it’s a neutral smell for which animals have no response to unless they have encountered it in a negative way before Same goes for trap dyes and dips, just because you can’t smell it doesn’t mean an animal can’t, but to most of them it’s a neutral smell so they ignore it, it’s when they become contaminated with other smells that problems come along
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/08/21 10:41 AM
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Just my .02 worth take it for what it cost ya
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/08/21 11:41 AM
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Nightlife wrote: Probably not but it was something different, so was worth investigating
Everything gives off a smell, doesn’t matter what kind of treatment you give it, the trick is to not trigger the fight or flight instinct, by human smell or blood or other orders that trigger fear, or the o good food response by contamination by bait, blood, lure ect or smells that trigger other unwanted responses
What you want is a neutral smell that they will mostly ignore, because it has no real associations with fear, food or other response triggers
You say that’s why I wax it seals in the trap smell, sorry to tell you wax has its own smell, heck even my old nose can detect it when held close, but in most cases it’s a neutral smell for which animals have no response to unless they have encountered it in a negative way before
Same goes for trap dyes and dips, just because you can’t smell it doesn’t mean an animal can’t, but to most of them it’s a neutral smell so they ignore it, it’s when they become contaminated with other smells that problems come along
That is very good logical thinking. I like it. Thanks for sharing Mac
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/08/21 12:01 PM
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Set half a dozen pig snares today, went out and dumped some leftover watermelon. It’s 8:15pm about to be dark in 30 minutes or so. Scared a cat that’s been on the property. Than noticed a coon coming up the fence line. He stopped right where the snare is under the fence. Smelled it full circle and walked away. The snares have sat in the woods unset for a couple weeks. Just had a nice rain, was curious of anyone response with animals noticing snares. 30 minutes or so This maybe the key to why the coon smelled you. It may take a little more time for your scent pool to disapate
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/09/21 06:33 PM
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Just because it sniffed it all around doesn’t mean it’s odor is what scared the coon from going through. If it saw it and thought it was out of place, the coon would surely smell it to investigate. It may have just looked a little too different compared to what that coon was used to seeing? That coon may have been snared before? No way to know for sure. Raccoons are surely not deterred by human scent.
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Re: Animal instincts
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06/09/21 08:14 PM
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If you wax properly there is hardly any wax on the snare and the smell is ambient(smell is what the bush smells like).Induced smells of any sort is what you want to avoid.Smells that belong(ambient)are perfectly fine.
Last edited by Boco; 06/09/21 08:15 PM.
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