I'm thinking this is showing what effect history has on our future. Does the old saying "The Victors Write The History" have any merit. We are seeing history torn down right here in our own day. If there is no living witnesses and no carved statues then it must not have happened.

Yeah, I recently re-read the Gospels and saw absolutely nothing in them to make one think Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. In fact, in Matthew, Jesus said it was better for a man to remain unmarried and focus on Heaven if he is able to do so.

So some of the strongest and most aggressive disciples were worried about Jesus and his relatives and worked to remove them from interfering with their brand of Christianity? Wow and many feel it is only lately that the World is going to %#&& in a handbasket. Religion then has interfered with spirituality from the onset. No wonder we have the divisive nature we have today. Maybe the billions who have chosen not to get involved heavily in religious organizations are not as amoral as many would like to think they are.

Bryce

Very simple - you do not have to be involved heavily. Salvation is a simple truth. A gift from the one true God. Jesus Christ died for all who repent of their sins and choose to accept Him into their life. A true Christian is known my their fruit and should desire sanctification of their life.

KeithC
Knows nothing abt Jesus or the Bible
Sooo sad.

I feel pity for those who mock scripture. LLL

Same here.

dont forget the bible your so fond of was created by emporer constantine. his goal was to unite his empire under one religion. its why christianity has so many pagan roots. it was the only way to get all them to accept the new religion.


fwiw im not mocking anything.

those who say what they are taught today is the same faith taught before emporer constantine need to do a little more research. IF there are any original gospels still around the vatican has them locked in their library and very few ever read them.

And you base this on? Cite your sources, please.

And Wikipedia or online sources don't count. Let's see some scholarly research and actual published works.

Why would a emperor create a book that undermines his authority?
Why would religious leaders promote a book that undermines their authority?

Seems to be quite a bit of judging afoot! Hmmm.

do your own research. go to a library

T

I'm thinking even if you had a scroll fresh from a cave near the Dead Sea, that Constantine's eyes had never saw, you still wouldn't believe. Because you are an atheist and a very good one at that ! You fall into the form of "whatever you do, do it well".

I have and and am fully convinced the Jesus actually existed and was the only Son of God and born to a virgin who did exactly as as the gospels describe. He was crucified and returned from the grave three days later walked among us for another forty days before ascending into heaven. Not only do the gospels all agree on this with corrobated eyewitness testimony from the apostles the entirety of the biblical record from the very beginning of the Torah to what we now know of as the Bible points to and confirms His existence.

Furthermore I rely not just on Canon as the complete secular history of the first century backs up the claims of the gospels.

I also believe that His grace can be extended to all for remission of sin and entrance into an eternal relationship with God.

People, at least most people, choose and defend the religion their parents and community are a part of. We have a few Budhists in the U.S. a few Muslims also, but not many. In Japan there are very few Christians and in India there are not many Jews. That is another truth that few want to contemplate.

True, but every soul will eventually contemplate for themselves and must decide. For it is written that every knee will bow and every tongue confess.

Can someone please post some YouTube videos? I agree that some reliable sources are required here.

I have. Just a smattering of some of my library.

After man has had his hands in it all I say is every church and group write and rewrite things slanted to their point of view, if not why is there one God and a hundred or more different churches in this country alone. Even on here people can't agree .

True. People tend to believe what they want to believe. What some believe will not seem true to what others believe. I see no harm in any of this.